Discussion:
What's your favourite FLOSS?
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2005-10-29 15:00:20 UTC
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Hello,
Here's my list and please edit it to suit your preferences and add
more categories:

3D animation [ blender ]
audio editor [ audacity ]
audio player [ xmms ]
cd-ripper [ sound-juicer ]
dbms [ postgresql ]
document viewer [ dpkg-www ]
disc burner [ k3b, gnomebaker ]
e-mail client [ (none) - I use Gmail ]
file manager [ nautilus ]
finance [ gnucash ]
image editor [ gimp ]
image viewer [ gthumb ]
mathematics [ octave ]
misc utilities [ lsof, sloccount, splint, sudo, top, uptimed ]
package manager [ aptitude ]
tag editor [ juk ]
terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
text editor [ gedit, nano ]
(unreleased) [ GNU HURD ]
video player [ xine-ui ]
web browser [ mozilla-firefox ]
Hugo Vanwoerkom
2005-10-29 15:18:02 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hello,
Here's my list and please edit it to suit your preferences and add
3D animation [ blender ]
audio editor [ audacity ]
audio player [ xmms ]
cd-ripper [ sound-juicer ]
dbms [ postgresql ]
document viewer [ dpkg-www ]
disc burner [ k3b, gnomebaker ]
e-mail client [ (none) - I use Gmail ]
file manager [ nautilus ]
finance [ gnucash ]
image editor [ gimp ]
image viewer [ gthumb ]
mathematics [ octave ]
misc utilities [ lsof, sloccount, splint, sudo, top, uptimed ]
package manager [ aptitude ]
tag editor [ juk ]
terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
text editor [ gedit, nano ]
(unreleased) [ GNU HURD ]
video player [ xine-ui ]
web browser [ mozilla-firefox ]
Like in FLOSSING my teeth?
I won't publish it: to much soul baring is hard to bear...
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2005-10-29 19:07:54 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
3D animation [ blender ]
audio editor [ audacity ]
audio player [ muine ]
I have to check this one out.
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
cd-ripper [ sound-juicer ]
document viewer [ ??? ] -what do you mean with document viewer?
That's what I use to read package documentation. I shoould have been
more specific.
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
disc burner [ gnomebaker, nautilus burn feature ]
This nautilus-cd-burner would have received my vote ahead of K3b if it
did not toast my CDs so many times and if it could do audio burning.
Also I would be glad if gnomebaker could do multisession for DVDs and
for me, this is the only feature that prevents me from rating it
highest since I love the GTK interface.
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
e-mail client [ (none) ]
file manager [ nautilus ]
finance [ (none)]
image editor [ gimp ]
image viewer [ gthumb ]
mathematics [ (none) ]
package manager [ aptitude ]
tag editor [ easytag ]
Can it perform multiple tags as a time, which is about the only reason
I use juk.
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
text editor [ gedit, nano ]
(unreleased) [ GNU HURD ]
video player [ gxine ]
web browser [ mozilla-firefox ]
Thanks for the reply...
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2005-10-31 08:16:42 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
This nautilus-cd-burner would have received my vote ahead of K3b if it
did not toast my CDs so many times and if it could do audio burning.
Also I would be glad if gnomebaker could do multisession for DVDs and
for me, this is the only feature that prevents me from rating it
highest since I love the GTK interface.
You probably missed the most important FLOSS software for burning
DVDs, dvd+rw-tools. Without dvd+rw-tools and cdrtools, k3b and
gnomebaker are just eyecandies, pretty useless. There's also an
unofficial DVD patch for cdrtools which AFAICT is unavailable as a
binary package under Debian (though its availabe as an unapplied patch
in the source package). Sadly, unlike the cdrtools (including the
binary-only DVD-enabled vesion), dvd+rw-tools appears to be
unmaintained upstream. There hasn't been an update to it in over a
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/
These pieces of underlying code are wonderful, but the question is
what's your favourite FLOSS and not which do you think is most
important or more respectable. I do admire these projects actually,
but I never use them directly but rather through the 'pretty'
interfaces... and isn't it also about ease of use? Have you seen the
manual page for cdrecord!!!
Rogério Brito
2005-10-31 08:35:25 UTC
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and isn't it also about ease of use? Have you seen the manual page for
cdrecord!!!
Actually, I have never, ever, burned a CD on Linux with a GUI. All the
work I do is on the command line and, sincerely, I don't feel any
problem with this. And this includes using dvd+rw-tools, cdparanoia,
cdrecord, cdrdao, dvdauthor and vcdimager, among other things.

I can not stand the thought of some GUI application filling my home
directory with yet more "hidden" configuration files.

I am obsessive about the layout of my home directory and I have home
made scripts to clean up my directory so that it is about 11MB
compressed (just prepared for crashes: I take daily backups of my system
with mondo and backup my non-important dadta onto an external Firewire
disk).

Yes, I have obsessive-compulsive disorder and these are just some of its
(many faceted) manifestations. :-)


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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2005-10-31 08:15:59 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
This nautilus-cd-burner would have received my vote ahead of K3b if it
did not toast my CDs so many times and if it could do audio burning.
Also I would be glad if gnomebaker could do multisession for DVDs and
for me, this is the only feature that prevents me from rating it
highest since I love the GTK interface.
You probably missed the most important FLOSS software for burning
DVDs, dvd+rw-tools. Without dvd+rw-tools and cdrtools, k3b and
gnomebaker are just eyecandies, pretty useless. There's also an
unofficial DVD patch for cdrtools which AFAICT is unavailable as a
binary package under Debian (though its availabe as an unapplied patch
in the source package). Sadly, unlike the cdrtools (including the
binary-only DVD-enabled vesion), dvd+rw-tools appears to be
unmaintained upstream. There hasn't been an update to it in over a
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/
Tell me more about this patch... Does it make dvd+rw-tools unnecessary?
Eduardo Silva
2005-10-29 18:58:02 UTC
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3D animation [ blender ]
audio editor [ audacity ]
audio player [ muine ]
cd-ripper [ sound-juicer ]

document viewer [ ??? ] -what do you mean with
document viewer?
disc burner [ gnomebaker, nautilus burn feature ]
e-mail client [ (none) ]
file manager [ nautilus ]
finance [ (none)]
image editor [ gimp ]
image viewer [ gthumb ]
mathematics [ (none) ]
package manager [ aptitude ]
tag editor [ easytag ]
terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
text editor [ gedit, nano ]
(unreleased) [ GNU HURD ]
video player [ gxine ]
web browser [ mozilla-firefox ]

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Joachim Fahnenmüller
2005-10-29 20:00:40 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hello,
Here's my list and please edit it to suit your preferences and add
3D animation [ blender ]
audio editor [ audacity ]
audio player [ xmms ]
cd-ripper [ abcde ]
disc burner [ cdrecord ]
e-mail client [ mutt ]
file manager [ mc ]
image editor [ gimp, imagemagick ]
image viewer [ gqview ]
mathematics [ maxima ]
package manager [ aptitude ]
terminal emulator [ rxvt ]
text editor [ vim ]
web browser [ mozilla-firefox ]
process monitor [ procmeter ]
office [ openoffice ]
window manager [ fvwm ]

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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2005-10-31 08:28:02 UTC
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audio player [ amaroK ]
cd-ripper [ sound-juicer ]
document viewer [uh.... depends on the document.- Evince or Kate I suppose].
disc burner [ k3b, gnomebaker ]
e-mail client [ Mozilla Thunderbird ]
file manager [ Krusader ]
image editor [ gimp ]
image viewer [ gthumb ]
package manager [ synaptic ]
terminal emulator [ konsole ]
text editor [ kate ]
(unreleased) [ GNU HURD ]
video player [ anything but ugly xine-ui ]
Yeah it's damn ugly, but I hear that it has some skins available that
I haven't checked out yet. But the functionality is rather amazing and
it's easier to use than the legendary 'mplayer' while being more
flexible than 'totem' in my opinion.
Rogério Brito
2005-10-31 09:47:10 UTC
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On Oct 31 2005, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
[Comments on xine]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Yeah it's damn ugly, but I hear that it has some skins available that
I haven't checked out yet.
I just don't get this "skins thing" that everybody seems to talk about.
I mean, I just want something that looks serious and that has usability,
not some toy with widgets that are sooooo damn small that I have trouble
pointing with the mouse (or, worse, when you have to work with a
trackpad).

Oh, yes, I *do* have contributed some small code to xine and read its
sources. It's actually quite nice, but the idea of using a non-standard
user interface wasn't the best thing they did, IMVHO.
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
But the functionality is rather amazing and it's easier to use than
the legendary 'mplayer'
What exactly is the problem with mplayer (besides the quality of the
source code, which is mixture of code with a lot of differing standards
and is not packaged in Debian :-) )?

If you're used to the command line, then typing mplayer <movie> can't be
much easier.
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
while being more flexible than 'totem' in my opinion.
I'd like to know in what ways xine is more flexible than totem, as totem
(or at, least, some versions of it) use xine as a backend.

I don't know what exactly is the point where one thing stops being
flexible (like totem, as you say) and when one thing is easier to use. I
sincerely don't know how to balance that.
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Nate Bargmann
2005-10-31 12:07:11 UTC
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disc burner [ k3b ]
e-mail client [ Mutt ]
file manager [ Midnight Commander ]
terminal emulator [ Xterm, RXVT, Konsole ]
text editor [ FTE ]
video player [ VLC Player ]
When I first read the title to the thread, I was thinking my answer
would be the free packets my dentist provides... ;-) Perhaps you
meant F/OS Software?

I am really passionate about my choice of text editor. I love FTE and
it's my default. I cannot stand vi/vim and Emacs drives me nuts. FTE
operates the way I am used to.

For DVD playing I found VLC Player to work perfectly while mplayer
couldn't get the sound and video synced. Plus VLC Player supports the
DVD menus. I've never found Xine to be usable (maybe I'm just to old
to cope with "cool" skins).

Midnight Commander is simply the best system administration tool
available. I've used it for nine years and I haven't found anything
better.

BTW, the Popularity Contest package tracks your usage of various apps
and is intended (I believe) to give the release team an idea of what is
most used.

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Rogério Brito
2005-10-31 12:39:18 UTC
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Post by Nate Bargmann
I am really passionate about my choice of text editor. I love FTE and
it's my default. I cannot stand vi/vim and Emacs drives me nuts. FTE
operates the way I am used to.
I have never used anything other than Emacs. In fact, when I do, I feel
like I'm half-naked in a snowy winter. :-)

I know only the very, very basics of using vi and the thing of switching
back and forth between command mode and edition mode drives me nuts. :-)

It is a respectable editor, OTOH.
Post by Nate Bargmann
For DVD playing I found VLC Player to work perfectly while mplayer
couldn't get the sound and video synced.
This is funny, as I have never had this problem with mplayer.
Post by Nate Bargmann
Plus VLC Player supports the DVD menus.
I don't care for the menus, but having them usable is a nice addition,
of course.
Post by Nate Bargmann
I've never found Xine to be usable (maybe I'm just to old to cope with
"cool" skins).
I have the *exact* same feeling regarding the skins, as I already
mentioned.
Post by Nate Bargmann
BTW, the Popularity Contest package tracks your usage of various apps
and is intended (I believe) to give the release team an idea of what
is most used.
Indeed, the results of the popularity-contest package (which tells
weekly the Debian servers your most used packages) are used to select
which programs/packages are put into the first, second, third etc CDs of
the distribution.

I would highly recommend that others give the popularity-contest package
a try, as you will help the distribution be more suited to our needs.


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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2005-10-31 13:06:39 UTC
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Post by Nate Bargmann
disc burner [ k3b ]
e-mail client [ Mutt ]
file manager [ Midnight Commander ]
terminal emulator [ Xterm, RXVT, Konsole ]
text editor [ FTE ]
video player [ VLC Player ]
When I first read the title to the thread, I was thinking my answer
would be the free packets my dentist provides... ;-) Perhaps you
meant F/OS Software?
I am really passionate about my choice of text editor. I love FTE and
it's my default. I cannot stand vi/vim and Emacs drives me nuts. FTE
operates the way I am used to.
I never hear of this one (FTE) before and I just have to check it out.
Post by Nate Bargmann
For DVD playing I found VLC Player to work perfectly while mplayer
couldn't get the sound and video synced. Plus VLC Player supports the
DVD menus. I've never found Xine to be usable (maybe I'm just to old
to cope with "cool" skins).
Midnight Commander is simply the best system administration tool
available. I've used it for nine years and I haven't found anything
better.
I wanted to try it out but found it a bit awkward for considering I
grew up in GUI stuff like Windows Explorer and Nautilus... It takes a
lot of getting used to, just like Emacs and vi. So I gave up.
Post by Nate Bargmann
BTW, the Popularity Contest package tracks your usage of various apps
and is intended (I believe) to give the release team an idea of what is
most used.
Popularity Contest would be even better if it didn't list 'required'
and 'standard' pacakges to judge true popularity. How does one call
'dpkg' or 'apt' popular when one doesn't really have a choice --- it's
a dedian system after all.
Derek Broughton
2005-10-31 18:08:01 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Popularity Contest would be even better if it didn't list 'required'
and 'standard' pacakges to judge true popularity. How does one call
'dpkg' or 'apt' popular when one doesn't really have a choice --- it's
a dedian system after all.
I doubt it really makes a difference. All the 'required' packages are going
to be supported regardless of their ranking in "Popularity Contest", but it
would make for a more useful list of they just left the required packages
off it.
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Hugo Vanwoerkom
2005-11-01 10:53:52 UTC
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Post by Derek Broughton
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Popularity Contest would be even better if it didn't list 'required'
and 'standard' pacakges to judge true popularity. How does one call
'dpkg' or 'apt' popular when one doesn't really have a choice --- it's
a dedian system after all.
I doubt it really makes a difference. All the 'required' packages are going
to be supported regardless of their ranking in "Popularity Contest", but it
would make for a more useful list of they just left the required packages
off it.
Except... some required packages can be admired, e.g. gcc + c++
Or the kernel.
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2005-11-01 13:30:14 UTC
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Post by Hugo Vanwoerkom
Post by Derek Broughton
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Popularity Contest would be even better if it didn't list 'required'
and 'standard' pacakges to judge true popularity. How does one call
'dpkg' or 'apt' popular when one doesn't really have a choice --- it's
a dedian system after all.
I doubt it really makes a difference. All the 'required' packages are going
to be supported regardless of their ranking in "Popularity Contest", but it
would make for a more useful list of they just left the required packages
off it.
Except... some required packages can be admired, e.g. gcc + c++
Or the kernel.
Yeah.. that and some other larger-than-life stuff like 'coreutils' and 'bash'.
Wei Chen
2005-11-01 14:52:52 UTC
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Hi,

I want to make a service invisible to one of my samba users. How can that be done? Thanks.

Wei
Dave Ewart
2005-11-01 16:51:15 UTC
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Post by Wei Chen
I want to make a service invisible to one of my samba users. How can that be done? Thanks.
Set an 'invalid users' directive on that share. See 'man smb.conf'

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Chen Wei
2005-11-02 02:59:32 UTC
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Post by Dave Ewart
Set an 'invalid users' directive on that share. See 'man smb.conf'
But the invalid users can still see that service, although they cannot go into the service. How to make the service not listed in the services list for that user?

Wei
Dave Ewart
2005-11-02 08:30:41 UTC
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Post by Chen Wei
Post by Dave Ewart
Set an 'invalid users' directive on that share. See 'man smb.conf'
But the invalid users can still see that service, although they cannot
go into the service. How to make the service not listed in the
services list for that user?
If you are hiding services before the user authenticates, how can you
know *which* user you should be hiding it from??

You can set "browseable=no" for the share, but that will apply to all
users, although that might do what you want.

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Wei Chen
2005-11-02 09:30:15 UTC
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Post by Dave Ewart
Post by Chen Wei
Post by Dave Ewart
Set an 'invalid users' directive on that share. See 'man smb.conf'
But the invalid users can still see that service, although they cannot
go into the service. How to make the service not listed in the
services list for that user?
If you are hiding services before the user authenticates, how can you
know *which* user you should be hiding it from??
You can set "browseable=no" for the share, but that will apply to all
users, although that might do what you want.
Thanks. Maybe I didn't explain it clearly. Actually I want to hide it
after the user authenticates and anonymous users do not have access to
the server.

The problem has been solved by using
include = /path/smb.conf.%U
in the [global] section and it seems that it works.

Wei
Kjetil Kjernsmo
2005-10-31 19:57:19 UTC
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  mathematics [ octave ]
I'm, contrary to everybody else, going to comment just on this. My
favorite here is without a doubt R. r-recommended in Debian and
http://www.r-project.org/ on the web.

It has some minimal, but very cool, OO concepts (as opposed to e.g. the
proprietary IDL, which is supposed to be OO, but is (was) entirely
misunderstood), and has a very straightforward mapping between math and
code. E.g. for loops are unneeded in R, and that's actually a good
thing.

Highly recommended!

Cheers,

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2005-11-01 10:47:59 UTC
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Post by Kjetil Kjernsmo
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
mathematics [ octave ]
I'm, contrary to everybody else, going to comment just on this. My
favorite here is without a doubt R. r-recommended in Debian and
http://www.r-project.org/ on the web.
It has some minimal, but very cool, OO concepts (as opposed to e.g. the
proprietary IDL, which is supposed to be OO, but is (was) entirely
misunderstood), and has a very straightforward mapping between math and
code. E.g. for loops are unneeded in R, and that's actually a good
thing.
Highly recommended!
But the programming of it: I escape its use every time!
Just now had to do a regression in a program. Did it myself instead of
figuring out how to program R in the program!

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Mark Crean
2005-11-01 20:21:39 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hello,
Here's my list and please edit it to suit your preferences and add
[snip]
cd-ripper [grip]
DE [xfce4]
mail server [cyrus21]
spamkiller [spamassassin]
dns [dnsmasq]
image viewer [f-spot]
text editor [gvim, gedit]
http proxy [privoxy]
email client [thunderbird]
audio player [xfmedia]
eyecandy [wallpaper-tray]
firewall [shorewall]
cms [drupal]
admin [webmin]
config [gkDebconf]
distro [Debian] :)
icons [dlg-etiquette]
aggregator [lifearea]
ftp [gftp]
John L Fjellstad
2005-11-03 05:51:57 UTC
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audio player [ amaroK ]
cd-ripper [ abcde ]
disc burner [ k3b ]
e-mail client [ mutt ]
file manager [ xterm ]
image editor [ gimp ]
image viewer [ kview ]
package manager [ aptitude ]
tag editor [ id3v2 ]
terminal emulator [ Konsole ]
text editor [ emacs ]
video player [ mplayer ]
web browser [ mozilla-firefox ]
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Rodolfo Alcazar
2005-11-03 11:21:28 UTC
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audio player [ xmms ]
cd-ripper [ abcde ]
disc burner [ k3b ]
e-mail client [ evolution ]
file manager [ xfe ]
image editor [ gimp ]
image viewer [ kuickshow ]
package manager [ aptitude ]
tag editor [ easytag ]
terminal emulator [ xterm ]
text editor [ vi ]
video player [ mplayer ]
web browser [ firefox ]

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John L Fjellstad
2005-11-03 14:32:55 UTC
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audio player [ amaroK ]
cd-ripper [ abcde ]
disc burner [ k3b ]
e-mail client [ mutt ]
file manager [ xterm ]
image editor [ gimp ]
image viewer [ kview ]
package manager [ aptitude ]
tag editor [ id3v2 ]
terminal emulator [ Konsole ]
text editor [ emacs ]
video player [ mplayer ]
web browser [ mozilla-firefox ]
Forgot to mention,
image manager [ digiKam ]

It's interesting to read this of software. Not only do we have great
choices, they are all very usuably, IMO. I don't really like to fight my
computer, so I really like it when I can just drag my FLAC files from
amaroK into my iPod, or download the images from my camera into my image
manager in digiKam. It's just works.
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Chris Peterman
2005-11-03 22:41:46 UTC
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audio player [ Beep Media Player ]
cd-ripper [ n/a ]
disc-burner [ k3b ]
e-mail client [ Evolution ]
file manager [ Rox/Terminal ]
image editor [ gimp ]
image viewer [ f-spot ]
package manager [ apt-get ]
terminal-emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
text-editor [ emacs ]
video-player [ VLC/Totem-Xine ]
web-browser [ Epiphany ]
IRC Client [ XChat ]
IM [ GAIM ]

~ Chris
Post by John L Fjellstad
audio player [ amaroK ]
cd-ripper [ abcde ]
disc burner [ k3b ]
e-mail client [ mutt ]
file manager [ xterm ]
image editor [ gimp ]
image viewer [ kview ]
package manager [ aptitude ]
tag editor [ id3v2 ]
terminal emulator [ Konsole ]
text editor [ emacs ]
video player [ mplayer ]
web browser [ mozilla-firefox ]
Forgot to mention,
image manager [ digiKam ]
It's interesting to read this of software. Not only do we have great
choices, they are all very usuably, IMO. I don't really like to fight my
computer, so I really like it when I can just drag my FLAC files from
amaroK into my iPod, or download the images from my camera into my image
manager in digiKam. It's just works.
--
John L. Fjellstad
web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes
Derek Broughton
2005-11-04 01:24:06 UTC
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media player [ Kaffeine ]
disc-burner [ k3b ]
PIM [ kontact ]
finance [ kMyMoney ]
Post by John L Fjellstad
It's interesting to read this of software. Not only do we have great
choices, they are all very usuably, IMO. I don't really like to fight my
computer, so I really like it when I can just drag my FLAC files from
amaroK into my iPod, or download the images from my camera into my image
manager in digiKam. It's just works.
I'm particularly intrigued by how many users have chosen k3b when one of the
lists included is particularly biased to gnome (and a number of the k3b
users have chosen a significant number of gnome apps elsewhere).

I'd pick AmaroK as the audio player if I could just get it to reliably work.
I can't begin to figure out why _some_ files in a directory get added to my
collection, and others in the same format don't. It looks great, promises
much, and it frustrates me every time I use it. :-(
--
derek
Alan Ianson
2005-11-04 02:57:15 UTC
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Post by Derek Broughton
media player [ Kaffeine ]
disc-burner [ k3b ]
PIM [ kontact ]
finance [ kMyMoney ]
Post by John L Fjellstad
It's interesting to read this of software. Not only do we have great
choices, they are all very usuably, IMO. I don't really like to fight my
computer, so I really like it when I can just drag my FLAC files from
amaroK into my iPod, or download the images from my camera into my image
manager in digiKam. It's just works.
I'm particularly intrigued by how many users have chosen k3b when one of
the lists included is particularly biased to gnome (and a number of the k3b
users have chosen a significant number of gnome apps elsewhere).
I'd pick AmaroK as the audio player if I could just get it to reliably
work. I can't begin to figure out why _some_ files in a directory get added
to my collection, and others in the same format don't. It looks great,
promises much, and it frustrates me every time I use it. :-(
I've not been frustrated at all with amaroK, is there anything different about
those files, permissions maybe?
John L Fjellstad
2005-11-04 07:18:46 UTC
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Post by Derek Broughton
I'd pick AmaroK as the audio player if I could just get it to reliably work.
I can't begin to figure out why _some_ files in a directory get added to my
collection, and others in the same format don't. It looks great, promises
much, and it frustrates me every time I use it. :-(
Might be a corrupted db. Try rescanning your collection
--
John L. Fjellstad
web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes
Derek Broughton
2005-11-04 14:39:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by John L Fjellstad
Post by Derek Broughton
I'd pick AmaroK as the audio player if I could just get it to reliably
work. I can't begin to figure out why _some_ files in a directory get
added to my
collection, and others in the same format don't. It looks great,
promises much, and it frustrates me every time I use it. :-(
Might be a corrupted db. Try rescanning your collection
I pretty much think it _must_ be a corrupted DB, but rescanning has no
effect. I really have to take the time to figure out how to put the DB
into MySQL, because I really do like Amarok, otherwise (though it should
really let me add .wav files to the collection).
--
derek
John L Fjellstad
2005-11-05 00:21:23 UTC
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Post by Derek Broughton
I pretty much think it _must_ be a corrupted DB, but rescanning has no
effect. I really have to take the time to figure out how to put the DB
into MySQL, because I really do like Amarok, otherwise (though it should
really let me add .wav files to the collection).
Well, the db is in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok, and the file is
collection.db. Maybe just deleting this will help? I think I had
similar problems back before Sarge went stable, and I think I just
deleted the amarok directory. I don't remember for
1.2.3 (Sarge version), but amaroK for Sid (v 1.3.5) has an option to put
stuff in a MySQL db.
--
John L. Fjellstad
web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes
Derek Broughton
2005-11-05 19:29:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by John L Fjellstad
Post by Derek Broughton
I pretty much think it _must_ be a corrupted DB, but rescanning has no
effect. I really have to take the time to figure out how to put the DB
into MySQL, because I really do like Amarok, otherwise (though it should
really let me add .wav files to the collection).
Well, the db is in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok, and the file is
collection.db. Maybe just deleting this will help? I think I had
similar problems back before Sarge went stable, and I think I just
deleted the amarok directory. I don't remember for
1.2.3 (Sarge version), but amaroK for Sid (v 1.3.5) has an option to put
stuff in a MySQL db.
The current Ubuntu version supports MySQL, too, so I was planning to set
that up, but just haven't got around to it yet. But maybe I'll start by
just deleting that collection.db and see what happens. Thanks.
--
derek
Derek Broughton
2005-11-07 13:48:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Derek Broughton
Post by John L Fjellstad
Post by Derek Broughton
I pretty much think it _must_ be a corrupted DB, but rescanning has no
effect. I really have to take the time to figure out how to put the DB
into MySQL, because I really do like Amarok, otherwise (though it should
really let me add .wav files to the collection).
Well, the db is in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok, and the file is
collection.db. Maybe just deleting this will help? I think I had
similar problems back before Sarge went stable, and I think I just
deleted the amarok directory. I don't remember for
1.2.3 (Sarge version), but amaroK for Sid (v 1.3.5) has an option to put
stuff in a MySQL db.
The current Ubuntu version supports MySQL, too, so I was planning to set
that up, but just haven't got around to it yet. But maybe I'll start by
just deleting that collection.db and see what happens. Thanks.
I deleted the connection.db and rescanned a number of times, and that didn't
work. I changed the database to MySQL and that _half_ worked. So finally
I broke down and read the Wiki documentation at:
http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MySQL_HowTo
and set up the MySQL database exactly as specified and it's now working
properly. It appears that Amarok will create the database if it doesn't
already exist, but seems to fail to grant some rights or create some table.

Anyway, Amarok is now my favorite audio player :-)
--
derek
Andrey Andreev
2005-11-03 13:39:53 UTC
Permalink
3D animation [ blender ]
audio editor [ audacity ]
audio player [ amarok ]
dbms [ postgresql ]
disc burner [ k3b ]
e-mail client [ thunderbird ]
file manager [ mc ]
image editor [ gimp ]
image viewer [ kuickshow ]
mathematics [ octave, maxima, latex, texmacs ]
misc utilities [ screen, bash, ssh, grep, awk, find, fuser ]
package manager [ aptitude ]
terminal emulator [ konsole ]
text editor [ gvim ]
video player [ totem, gmplayer ]
web browser [ mozilla-firefox, wget ]
ftp [ lftp ]

Andro
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2005-11-30 11:09:59 UTC
Permalink
Hello,
There has been an interesting number of responses on this thread. I
like it because it helps me explore some other FLOSS (or not so FLO)
out there which I might otherwise find superior to my own favourites.
I would just like to post stats on what the respoding population likes
(in brackets we find the number of votes):

audio editor:
* audacity (7)
* audacious, gnusound, xfmedia

audio player:
* Amarok (6)
* XMMS (5)
* beep-media-player (3)
* XMMS2, mp3blaster, muine, totem, rhythmbox

cd-ripper:
* sound-juicer (6)
* abcde (4)
* KAudioCreator (2), grip (2)
* dagrab, cdparanoia

Desktop Environment:
* GNOME (2)
* Xfce4

DBMS:
* MySQL (3)
* PostgreSQL (2)
* Openoffice2.0 Base, Oracle

development:
* Eclipse (2), Qt (2), Quanta (2)
* bluefish, GTK+

disc burner:
* k3b (11)
* gnomebaker (6)
* cdrecord (2)
* xcdroast, nautilus-cd-burner, nero-linux, graveman

e-mail client:
* Thunderbird (9)
* evolution (5)
* mutt (4)
* kmail (2)
* Gmail (2)
* M2
* sylpheed-claws-gtk2

file manager:
* MC (6)
* nautilus (5)
* konqueror (3)
* rox-filer (3)
* emelfm
* xterm
* xfe
* p-desk
* krusader

finance:
* gnucash (5)
* Calc
* kMyMoney

firewall [ shorewall ]

ftp:
* gftp (4)
* ftp
* lftp

icons [ dlg-etiquette ]

image editor
* gimp (18)
* imagemagick

image viewer:
* gthumb (9)
* f-spot (3)
* GQview (2), kuickshow (2), eog (2), display? (2)
* imgSeek, mozilla-firefox, kview, gliv

instant messenger
* gaim (3)
* Kopete (2)

mathematics:
* octave (2), maxima (2)
* latex, texmacs, R

misc utilities:
* sudo (3)
* dvd9to5 (2), oggasm (2), ssh (2), grep (2), screen (2)
* lsof, sloccount, splint, uptimed, uptime, bash, awk, find
* fuser, scim, route, netstat, dpkg-www

p2p:
* aMule (2)
* azureus

package manager:
* aptitude (7)
* Synaptic (6)
* adept (2), apt (2)
* portage
* pkg_add

pdf-reader:
* acroread (2), kpdf (2)
* xpdf, gpdf, evince

process monitor:
* top (3)
* procmeter

tag editor:
* easyTag (5)
* juk, id3v2

terminal emulator:
* gnome-terminal (7)
* Konsole (6)
* Xterm (4)
* xfce4-terminal (2), RXVT (2), Yakuake (2)
* eterm

text editor:
* gedit (6)
* vi (5)
* kate (4)
* gvim (3), gxedit (3),
* nano (2), vim (2), Emacs (2)
* anjuta, FTE, mousepad, OpenOffice.org

video player:
* mplayer (7)
* VLC (4)
* Kaffeine (3)
* xine-ui (2), totem (2), totem-xine (2)
* gmplayer, gxine

web browser:
* mozilla-firefox (17)
* Epiphany (2)
* opera, wget, konqueror

(unreleased):
* GNU HURD (4)

3D animation: [ blender (5) ]
office: [ openoffice (2) ]

aggregator: [ lifearea ]
admin: [ webmin ]
bootloader: [ grub ]
cms: [ drupal ]
config: [ gkDebconf ]
dns: [ dnsmasq ]
eyecandy: [ wallpaper-tray ]
http-proxy: [ privoxy ]
image manager: [ digiKam ]
IRC client: [ XChat ]
mail server: [ cyrus21 ]
media-player: [ Kaffeine ]
PIM: [ kontact ]
spam murderer: [ spamassassin ]
window manager: [ fvwm ]

Summary:
18 votes: gimp
17 votes: mozilla-firefox
11 votes: k3b
09 votes: gthumb, Thunderbird
07 votes: aptitude, gnome-terminal, mplayer, audacity

Thanks for all the responses...
Andy Streich
2005-11-30 18:00:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hello,
There has been an interesting number of responses on this thread. I
like it because it helps me explore some other FLOSS (or not so FLO)
out there which I might otherwise find superior to my own favourites.
I would just like to post stats on what the respoding population likes
* audacity (7)
* audacious, gnusound, xfmedia
* Amarok (6)
* XMMS (5)
* beep-media-player (3)
* XMMS2, mp3blaster, muine, totem, rhythmbox
* sound-juicer (6)
* abcde (4)
* KAudioCreator (2), grip (2)
* dagrab, cdparanoia
* GNOME (2)
* Xfce4
* MySQL (3)
* PostgreSQL (2)
* Openoffice2.0 Base, Oracle
* Eclipse (2), Qt (2), Quanta (2)
* bluefish, GTK+
* k3b (11)
* gnomebaker (6)
* cdrecord (2)
* xcdroast, nautilus-cd-burner, nero-linux, graveman
* Thunderbird (9)
* evolution (5)
* mutt (4)
* kmail (2)
* Gmail (2)
* M2
* sylpheed-claws-gtk2
* MC (6)
* nautilus (5)
* konqueror (3)
* rox-filer (3)
* emelfm
* xterm
* xfe
* p-desk
* krusader
* gnucash (5)
* Calc
* kMyMoney
firewall [ shorewall ]
* gftp (4)
* ftp
* lftp
icons [ dlg-etiquette ]
image editor
* gimp (18)
* imagemagick
* gthumb (9)
* f-spot (3)
* GQview (2), kuickshow (2), eog (2), display? (2)
* imgSeek, mozilla-firefox, kview, gliv
instant messenger
* gaim (3)
* Kopete (2)
* octave (2), maxima (2)
* latex, texmacs, R
* sudo (3)
* dvd9to5 (2), oggasm (2), ssh (2), grep (2), screen (2)
* lsof, sloccount, splint, uptimed, uptime, bash, awk, find
* fuser, scim, route, netstat, dpkg-www
* aMule (2)
* azureus
* aptitude (7)
* Synaptic (6)
* adept (2), apt (2)
* portage
* pkg_add
* acroread (2), kpdf (2)
* xpdf, gpdf, evince
* top (3)
* procmeter
* easyTag (5)
* juk, id3v2
* gnome-terminal (7)
* Konsole (6)
* Xterm (4)
* xfce4-terminal (2), RXVT (2), Yakuake (2)
* eterm
* gedit (6)
* vi (5)
* kate (4)
* gvim (3), gxedit (3),
* nano (2), vim (2), Emacs (2)
* anjuta, FTE, mousepad, OpenOffice.org
* mplayer (7)
* VLC (4)
* Kaffeine (3)
* xine-ui (2), totem (2), totem-xine (2)
* gmplayer, gxine
* mozilla-firefox (17)
* Epiphany (2)
* opera, wget, konqueror
* GNU HURD (4)
3D animation: [ blender (5) ]
office: [ openoffice (2) ]
aggregator: [ lifearea ]
admin: [ webmin ]
bootloader: [ grub ]
cms: [ drupal ]
config: [ gkDebconf ]
dns: [ dnsmasq ]
eyecandy: [ wallpaper-tray ]
http-proxy: [ privoxy ]
image manager: [ digiKam ]
IRC client: [ XChat ]
mail server: [ cyrus21 ]
media-player: [ Kaffeine ]
PIM: [ kontact ]
spam murderer: [ spamassassin ]
window manager: [ fvwm ]
18 votes: gimp
17 votes: mozilla-firefox
11 votes: k3b
09 votes: gthumb, Thunderbird
07 votes: aptitude, gnome-terminal, mplayer, audacity
Thanks for all the responses...
Here's one more vote: jEdit, world's best text editor (programmer's editor).

Thanks for putting the list together, it's very interesting.
Oliver Lupton
2005-12-05 18:12:40 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:09:59 +0200
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* audacity (7)
* audacious, gnusound, xfmedia
Just a little correction, audacious is an audio player, not an editor. It was forked from beep-media-player :)

-ol
--
I will live forever, or die trying.
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2005-12-06 16:03:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Oliver Lupton
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:09:59 +0200
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* audacity (7)
* audacious, gnusound, xfmedia
Just a little correction, audacious is an audio player, not an editor. It was forked from beep-media-player :)
Eish! sorry man... such mistakes. I checked to see and noticed that I
put that in the wrong category. By the way, there was some stuff I
couldn't find from simple, lazy searching and I decided to remain
ignorant...
Andrey S Andreev
2005-12-07 10:43:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hello,
There has been an interesting number of responses on this thread. I
like it because it helps me explore some other FLOSS (or not so FLO)
out there which I might otherwise find superior to my own favourites.
I would just like to post stats on what the respoding population likes
[snip]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* gedit (6)
* vi (5)
* kate (4)
* gvim (3), gxedit (3),
* nano (2), vim (2), Emacs (2)
* anjuta, FTE, mousepad, OpenOffice.org
[snip
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
18 votes: gimp
17 votes: mozilla-firefox
11 votes: k3b
09 votes: gthumb, Thunderbird
07 votes: aptitude, gnome-terminal, mplayer, audacity
I think (g)vi(m) should have made the list with 10 votes , as, at least
in Debian vi and vim refer to the same thing, and gvim is still mostly
just vim.

Regards,

Andro
Arafangion
2005-12-07 10:18:33 UTC
Permalink
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 21:43, Andrey S Andreev wrote:
<snip>
Post by Andrey S Andreev
I think (g)vi(m) should have made the list with 10 votes , as, at least
in Debian vi and vim refer to the same thing, and gvim is still mostly
just vim.
Regards,
Andro
Careful when you say this to those who use vi or vim alot. vi and vim are NOT
the same thing (Calling vim via the vi symlink turns compatibility mode on,
for starters).
Richard Lyons
2005-12-07 12:23:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Arafangion
<snip>
Post by Andrey S Andreev
I think (g)vi(m) should have made the list with 10 votes , as, at least
in Debian vi and vim refer to the same thing, and gvim is still mostly
just vim.
Regards,
Andro
Careful when you say this to those who use vi or vim alot. vi and vim are NOT
the same thing (Calling vim via the vi symlink turns compatibility mode on,
for starters).
But surely nobody uses vi in preference to vim now? I certainly do use
it, but only when stuck in some primitive shell on a broken system with
no vim available. They are both only front ends to ex, after all, and
who uses ex?
--
richard
Andrey Andreev
2005-12-08 00:31:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Arafangion
Post by Andrey S Andreev
I think (g)vi(m) should have made the list with 10 votes , as, at least
in Debian vi and vim refer to the same thing, and gvim is still mostly
just vim.
Careful when you say this to those who use vi or vim alot. vi and vim are NOT
the same thing (Calling vim via the vi symlink turns compatibility mode on,
for starters).
Good point, but whether in compatibility mode or not, it is the same
program, isn't it?

By the way, I do not insist that everyone should see vi and vim as the
same thing. I was just making a point that vi and vim are popular,
according to the survey.

Regards,

Andro
Arafangion
2005-12-08 00:12:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Andrey Andreev
Post by Arafangion
Post by Andrey S Andreev
I think (g)vi(m) should have made the list with 10 votes , as, at least
in Debian vi and vim refer to the same thing, and gvim is still mostly
just vim.
Careful when you say this to those who use vi or vim alot. vi and vim are
NOT the same thing (Calling vim via the vi symlink turns compatibility
mode on, for starters).
Good point, but whether in compatibility mode or not, it is the same
program, isn't it?
By the way, I do not insist that everyone should see vi and vim as the
same thing. I was just making a point that vi and vim are popular,
according to the survey.
Regards,
Andro
Point taken :) Perhaps I was being a bit pedantic.

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