Discussion:
Two Lenny problems
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Cecil Knutson
2010-02-24 05:32:31 UTC
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Stephen, This is the second time I have replied, but I don't see the =

reply on the list, so here it goes again.
"Local" is in the /etc/modprobe.d directory; it has the right contents; =
=

modprobe.conf does not exist; the "cat" command does show the contents o=
f =

the file, but I don't see anything that shows if it is plain text or not=
.

Here is a section out of the output of "lsmod" pertaining to loaded soun=
d =

modules:

snd_ca0106 27584 3
snd_ac97_codec 88452 1 snd_ca0106
snd_pcm_oss 32800 0
snd_mixer_oss 12320 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 62660 4 snd_ca0106,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 2660 0
snd_seq_oss 24992 0
snd_seq_midi 5728 0
snd_rawmidi 18496 2 snd_ca0106,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 6432 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 41456 6 =

snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event

I didn't see anything about snd_intel8x0 anywhere in the output.

Here is the output of dmesg:

[ 0.000000] ACPI: BOOT 000FCDDE, 0028 (r1 DELL 8400 7 =

ASL 61)
[ 0.000000] ACPI: MCFG 000FCE06, 003E (r1 DELL 8400 7 =

ASL 61)
[ 0.000000] ACPI: HPET 000FCE44, 0038 (r1 DELL 8400 7 =

ASL 61)
[ 0.000000] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x808
[ 0.000000] ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
[ 0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
[ 0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x02] lapic_id[0x01] enabled)
[ 0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x03] lapic_id[0x01] disabled)
[ 0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x04] lapic_id[0x07] disabled)
[ 0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0xff] high level lint[0x1])
[ 0.000000] ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x08] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0])
[ 0.000000] IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 8, version 32, address 0xfec00000, GSI=
=

0-23
[ 0.000000] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl)
[ 0.000000] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 high leve=
l)
[ 0.000000] ACPI: IRQ0 used by override.
[ 0.000000] ACPI: IRQ2 used by override.
[ 0.000000] ACPI: IRQ9 used by override.
[ 0.000000] Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs
[ 0.000000] ACPI: HPET id: 0x8086a201 base: 0xfed00000
[ 0.000000] Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
[ 0.000000] Allocating PCI resources starting at d1000000 (gap: =

d0000000:10000000)
[ 0.000000] PM: Registered nosave memory: 00000000000a0000 - =

00000000000f0000
[ 0.000000] PM: Registered nosave memory: 00000000000f0000 - =

0000000000100000
[ 0.000000] SMP: Allowing 4 CPUs, 2 hotplug CPUs
[ 0.000000] PERCPU: Allocating 37960 bytes of per cpu data
[ 0.000000] NR_CPUS: 8, nr_cpu_ids: 4
[ 0.000000] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on. =

Total pages: 844942
[ 0.000000] Kernel command line: root=3D/dev/sda1 ro quiet
[ 0.000000] mapped APIC to ffffb000 (fee00000)
[ 0.000000] mapped IOAPIC to ffffa000 (fec00000)
[ 0.000000] Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
[ 0.000000] Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
[ 0.000000] Initializing CPU#0
[ 0.000000] PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 16384 bytes)
[ 0.000000] Detected 2992.587 MHz processor.
[ 0.004000] Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
[ 0.004000] console [tty0] enabled
[ 0.004000] Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288=
=

bytes)
[ 0.004000] Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 =

bytes)
[ 0.004000] Memory: 3368252k/3406384k available (1770k kernel code, =

36968k reserved, 751k data, 244k init, 2488880k highmem)
[ 0.004000] virtual kernel memory layout:
[ 0.004000] fixmap : 0xfff4c000 - 0xfffff000 ( 716 kB)
[ 0.004000] pkmap : 0xff800000 - 0xffc00000 (4096 kB)
[ 0.004000] vmalloc : 0xf8800000 - 0xff7fe000 ( 111 MB)
[ 0.004000] lowmem : 0xc0000000 - 0xf8000000 ( 896 MB)
[ 0.004000] .init : 0xc037f000 - 0xc03bc000 ( 244 kB)
[ 0.004000] .data : 0xc02ba9a9 - 0xc0376620 ( 751 kB)
[ 0.004000] .text : 0xc0100000 - 0xc02ba9a9 (1770 kB)
[ 0.004000] Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in =

supervisor mode...Ok.
[ 0.004000] CPA: page pool initialized 1 of 1 pages preallocated
[ 0.004000] hpet clockevent registered
[ 0.083948] Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 5991.27 =
=

BogoMIPS (lpj=3D11982554)
[ 0.083990] Security Framework initialized
[ 0.083995] SELinux: Disabled at boot.
[ 0.083999] Capability LSM initialized
[ 0.084005] Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
[ 0.084005] Initializing cgroup subsys ns
[ 0.084005] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
[ 0.084005] Initializing cgroup subsys devices
[ 0.084005] CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 16K
[ 0.084005] CPU: L2 cache: 1024K
[ 0.084005] CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0
[ 0.084005] Intel machine check architecture supported.
[ 0.084005] Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
[ 0.084005] CPU0: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available
[ 0.084005] CPU0: Thermal monitoring enabled
[ 0.084005] using mwait in idle threads.
[ 0.084005] Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
[ 0.100006] ACPI: Core revision 20080321
[ 0.144009] ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
[ 0.144009] ..TIMER: vector=3D0x31 apic1=3D0 pin1=3D2 apic2=3D-1 pin2=
=3D-1
[ 0.183714] CPU0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 04
[ 0.184011] Booting processor 1/1 ip 6000
[ 0.192012] Initializing CPU#1
[ 0.192012] Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 5985.00 =
=

BogoMIPS (lpj=3D11970019)
[ 0.192012] CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 16K
[ 0.192012] CPU: L2 cache: 1024K
[ 0.192012] CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0
[ 0.192012] Intel machine check architecture supported.
[ 0.192012] Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#1.
[ 0.192012] CPU1: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available
[ 0.192012] CPU1: Thermal monitoring enabled
[ 0.272017] CPU1: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 04
[ 0.272017] checking TSC synchronization [CPU#0 -> CPU#1]: passed.
[ 0.276017] Brought up 2 CPUs
[ 0.276017] Total of 2 processors activated (11976.28 BogoMIPS).
[ 0.276017] CPU0 attaching sched-domain:
[ 0.276017] domain 0: span 0-1
[ 0.276017] groups: 0 1
[ 0.276017] domain 1: span 0-1
[ 0.276017] groups: 0-1
[ 0.276017] CPU1 attaching sched-domain:
[ 0.276017] domain 0: span 0-1
[ 0.276017] groups: 1 0
[ 0.276017] domain 1: span 0-1
[ 0.276017] groups: 0-1
[ 0.276017] net_namespace: 660 bytes
[ 0.276017] Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware
[ 0.276017] NET: Registered protocol family 16
[ 0.276017] ACPI: bus type pci registered
[ 0.276017] PCI: MCFG configuration 0: base e0000000 segment 0 buses =
0 =

- 255
[ 0.276017] PCI: MCFG area at e0000000 reserved in E820
[ 0.276017] PCI: Using MMCONFIG for extended config space
[ 0.276017] PCI: Using configuration type 1 for base access
[ 0.276017] Setting up standard PCI resources
[ 0.192012] ACPI: EC: Look up EC in DSDT
[ 0.300380] ACPI: Interpreter enabled
[ 0.300384] ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5)
[ 0.300407] ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
[ 0.336977] ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00)
[ 0.337342] pci 0000:00:1f.0: quirk: region 0800-087f claimed by ICH6=
=

ACPI/GPIO/TCO
[ 0.337348] pci 0000:00:1f.0: quirk: region 0880-08bf claimed by ICH6=
=

GPIO
[ 0.337977] PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:1e.0
[ 0.338011] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
[ 0.338497] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCI1._PRT]
[ 0.339089] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCI2._PRT]
[ 0.339378] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCI3._PRT]
[ 0.339667] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCI4._PRT]
[ 0.620182] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 =
12 =

15)
[ 0.620182] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 *10 11 =
12 =

15)
[ 0.620182] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs *3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 =
12 =

15)
[ 0.620182] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 1=
2 =

15) *0, disabled.
[ 0.620182] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 9 10 11 =
12 =

15)
[ 0.620182] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 =
12 =

15)
[ 0.620182] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 9 10 11 =
12 =

15)
[ 0.620182] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 *10 11 =
12 =

15)
[ 0.620293] Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
[ 0.620293] pnp: PnP ACPI init
[ 0.620293] ACPI: bus type pnp registered
[ 0.648182] pnp: PnP ACPI: found 13 devices
[ 0.648182] ACPI: ACPI bus type pnp unregistered
[ 0.648182] PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP
[ 0.648182] PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
[ 0.653983] hpet0: at MMIO 0xfed00000, IRQs 2, 8, 0
[ 0.653991] hpet0: 3 64-bit timers, 14318180 Hz
[ 0.655043] ACPI: RTC can wake from S4
[ 0.657979] Switched to high resolution mode on CPU 0
[ 0.658444] Switched to high resolution mode on CPU 1
[ 0.661956] system 00:01: ioport range 0x800-0x85f has been reserved
[ 0.661961] system 00:01: ioport range 0xc00-0xc7f has been reserved
[ 0.661965] system 00:01: ioport range 0x860-0x8ff could not be reser=
ved
[ 0.661980] system 00:0a: iomem range 0x0-0x9ffff could not be reserv=
ed
[ 0.661984] system 00:0a: iomem range 0x100000-0xffffff could not be =
=

reserved
[ 0.661988] system 00:0a: iomem range 0x1000000-0xcfe8cbff could not =
be =

reserved
[ 0.661991] system 00:0a: iomem range 0xc0000-0xfffff could not be =

reserved
[ 0.661995] system 00:0a: iomem range 0xfec00000-0xfecfffff could not=
=

be reserved
[ 0.661998] system 00:0a: iomem range 0xfee00000-0xfeefffff could not=
=

be reserved
[ 0.662002] system 00:0a: iomem range 0xfed20000-0xfed9ffff could not=
=

be reserved
[ 0.662005] system 00:0a: iomem range 0xffb00000-0xffbfffff could not=
=

be reserved
[ 0.662009] system 00:0a: iomem range 0xffc00000-0xffffffff could not=
=

be reserved
[ 0.662017] system 00:0b: iomem range 0xe0000000-0xefffffff could not=
=

be reserved
[ 0.662021] system 00:0b: iomem range 0xfeda0000-0xfedacfff has been =
=

reserved
[ 0.693652] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:01.0
[ 0.693652] IO window: d000-dfff
[ 0.693652] MEM window: 0xdfd00000-0xdfefffff
[ 0.693652] PREFETCH window: 0x00000000d0000000-0x00000000d7ffffff
[ 0.693652] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:1c.0
[ 0.693652] IO window: disabled.
[ 0.693652] MEM window: 0xdfc00000-0xdfcfffff
[ 0.693652] PREFETCH window: disabled.
[ 0.693652] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:1c.1
[ 0.693652] IO window: disabled.
[ 0.693652] MEM window: 0xdfb00000-0xdfbfffff
[ 0.693652] PREFETCH window: disabled.
[ 0.693652] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:1e.0
[ 0.693652] IO window: c000-cfff
[ 0.693652] MEM window: disabled.
[ 0.693652] PREFETCH window: disabled.
[ 0.693652] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:01.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 16
[ 0.693652] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:01.0 to 64
[ 0.693652] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1c.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 16
[ 0.693652] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1c.0 to 64
[ 0.693652] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1c.1[B] -> GSI 17 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 17
[ 0.693652] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1c.1 to 64
[ 0.693652] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1e.0 to 64
[ 0.693652] NET: Registered protocol family 2
[ 0.705733] IP route cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 13107=
2 =

bytes)
[ 0.706048] TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, =

1048576 bytes)
[ 0.709652] TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 byte=
s)
[ 0.709652] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 6553=
6)
[ 0.709652] TCP reno registered
[ 0.713760] NET: Registered protocol family 1
[ 0.713897] checking if image is initramfs... it is
[ 1.217654] Freeing initrd memory: 6071k freed
[ 1.217654] Simple Boot Flag value 0x87 read from CMOS RAM was invali=
d
[ 1.217654] Simple Boot Flag at 0x7a set to 0x1
[ 1.217654] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
[ 1.217654] type=3D2000 audit(1266978750.208:1): initialized
[ 1.217941] highmem bounce pool size: 64 pages
[ 1.217941] Total HugeTLB memory allocated, 0
[ 1.217941] VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
[ 1.217941] Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes=
)
[ 1.217941] msgmni has been set to 1730
[ 1.217941] Block layer SCSI generic (bsg) driver version 0.4 loaded =
=

(major 253)
[ 1.217941] io scheduler noop registered
[ 1.217941] io scheduler anticipatory registered
[ 1.217941] io scheduler deadline registered
[ 1.217941] io scheduler cfq registered (default)
[ 1.217941] pci 0000:01:00.0: Boot video device
[ 1.217941] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:01.0 to 64
[ 1.217941] assign_interrupt_mode Found MSI capability
[ 1.217941] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:01.0:pcie00]
[ 1.217963] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:01.0:pcie03]
[ 1.217963] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1c.0 to 64
[ 1.217963] assign_interrupt_mode Found MSI capability
[ 1.217963] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:1c.0:pcie00]
[ 1.217963] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:1c.0:pcie02]
[ 1.217963] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:1c.0:pcie03]
[ 1.221938] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1c.1 to 64
[ 1.221938] assign_interrupt_mode Found MSI capability
[ 1.221938] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:1c.1:pcie00]
[ 1.221938] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:1c.1:pcie02]
[ 1.221938] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:1c.1:pcie03]
[ 1.221938] isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
[ 1.573523] isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
[ 1.580924] hpet_resources: 0xfed00000 is busy
[ 1.580924] Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ =
=

sharing enabled
[ 1.580924] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq =3D 4) is a 16550A
[ 1.580924] 00:09: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq =3D 4) is a 16550A
[ 1.584954] brd: module loaded
[ 1.584954] PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:KBD] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
[ 1.584954] PNP: PS/2 appears to have AUX port disabled, if this is =

incorrect please boot with i8042.nopnp
[ 1.584954] serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
[ 1.584954] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
[ 1.584954] rtc_cmos 00:05: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc0
[ 1.584954] rtc0: alarms up to one day
[ 1.584954] cpuidle: using governor ladder
[ 1.584954] cpuidle: using governor menu
[ 1.584954] No iBFT detected.
[ 1.584954] TCP cubic registered
[ 1.584954] NET: Registered protocol family 17
[ 1.584954] Using IPI No-Shortcut mode
[ 1.584954] registered taskstats version 1
[ 1.584954] rtc_cmos 00:05: setting system clock to 2010-02-24 02:32:=
31 =

UTC (1266978751)
[ 1.584954] Freeing unused kernel memory: 244k freed
[ 1.620955] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input=
0
[ 1.684924] ACPI: ACPI0007:00 is registered as cooling_device0
[ 1.684924] ACPI: ACPI0007:01 is registered as cooling_device1
[ 2.165927] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs
[ 2.165927] usbcore: registered new interface driver hub
[ 2.174282] usbcore: registered new device driver usb
[ 2.178282] USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0
[ 2.178282] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.0[A] -> GSI 21 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 21
[ 2.178282] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.0 to 64
[ 2.178282] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: UHCI Host Controller
[ 2.178282] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: new USB bus registered, assigned b=
us =

number 1
[ 2.178282] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: irq 21, io base 0x0000ff80
[ 2.178282] usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 2.178282] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
[ 2.178282] hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[ 2.279407] usb usb1: New USB device found, idVendor=3D1d6b, =

idProduct=3D0001
[ 2.279414] usb usb1: New USB device strings: Mfr=3D3, Product=3D2, =

SerialNumber=3D1
[ 2.279419] usb usb1: Product: UHCI Host Controller
[ 2.279423] usb usb1: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 uhci_hcd
[ 2.279428] usb usb1: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.0
[ 2.279478] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.1[B] -> GSI 22 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 22
[ 2.279493] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.1 to 64
[ 2.279499] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: UHCI Host Controller
[ 2.279538] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: new USB bus registered, assigned b=
us =

number 2
[ 2.279574] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: irq 22, io base 0x0000ff60
[ 2.281841] usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 2.281895] hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
[ 2.281906] hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[ 2.288096] Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver
[ 2.288107] ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; =

override with idebus=3Dxx
[ 2.376440] Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
[ 2.385335] usb usb2: New USB device found, idVendor=3D1d6b, =

idProduct=3D0001
[ 2.385344] usb usb2: New USB device strings: Mfr=3D3, Product=3D2, =

SerialNumber=3D1
[ 2.385352] usb usb2: Product: UHCI Host Controller
[ 2.385358] usb usb2: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 uhci_hcd
[ 2.385364] usb usb2: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.1
[ 2.385504] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.2[C] -> GSI 18 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 18
[ 2.385525] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.2 to 64
[ 2.385534] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: UHCI Host Controller
[ 2.385596] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: new USB bus registered, assigned b=
us =

number 3
[ 2.387398] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: irq 18, io base 0x0000ff40
[ 2.387565] usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 2.387635] hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
[ 2.387647] hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[ 2.392908] FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
[ 2.490401] usb usb3: New USB device found, idVendor=3D1d6b, =

idProduct=3D0001
[ 2.490406] usb usb3: New USB device strings: Mfr=3D3, Product=3D2, =

SerialNumber=3D1
[ 2.490410] usb usb3: Product: UHCI Host Controller
[ 2.490412] usb usb3: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 uhci_hcd
[ 2.490415] usb usb3: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.2
[ 2.490472] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.3[D] -> GSI 23 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 23
[ 2.490484] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.3 to 64
[ 2.490488] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: UHCI Host Controller
[ 2.490518] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: new USB bus registered, assigned b=
us =

number 4
[ 2.490549] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: irq 23, io base 0x0000ff20
[ 2.490639] usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 2.490679] hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found
[ 2.490687] hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[ 2.594378] usb usb4: New USB device found, idVendor=3D1d6b, =

idProduct=3D0001
[ 2.594382] usb usb4: New USB device strings: Mfr=3D3, Product=3D2, =

SerialNumber=3D1
[ 2.594385] usb usb4: Product: UHCI Host Controller
[ 2.594387] usb usb4: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 uhci_hcd
[ 2.594390] usb usb4: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.3
[ 2.594569] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.7[A] -> GSI 21 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 21
[ 2.594584] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.7 to 64
[ 2.594588] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: EHCI Host Controller
[ 2.594617] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: new USB bus registered, assigned b=
us =

number 5
[ 2.602274] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: debug port 1
[ 2.602274] PCI: cache line size of 128 is not supported by device =

0000:00:1d.7
[ 2.602274] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: irq 21, io mem 0xffa80800
[ 2.698273] usb 2-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and =

address 2
[ 2.714283] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver=
=

10 Dec 2004
[ 2.714366] usb usb5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 2.714402] hub 5-0:1.0: USB hub found
[ 2.714412] hub 5-0:1.0: 8 ports detected
[ 2.774805] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[ 2.818388] usb usb5: New USB device found, idVendor=3D1d6b, =

idProduct=3D0002
[ 2.818392] usb usb5: New USB device strings: Mfr=3D3, Product=3D2, =

SerialNumber=3D1
[ 2.818395] usb usb5: Product: EHCI Host Controller
[ 2.818398] usb usb5: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 ehci_hcd
[ 2.818400] usb usb5: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.7
[ 2.822772] ICH6: IDE controller (0x8086:0x266f rev 0x03) at PCI slo=
t =

0000:00:1f.1
[ 2.822772] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.1[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 16
[ 2.822772] ICH6: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
[ 2.822772] ICH6: IDE port disabled
[ 2.822772] ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7
[ 2.822772] Probing IDE interface ide0...
[ 3.614224] hda: SONY DVD RW DRU-840A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[ 3.650120] usb 2-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and =

address 3
[ 3.822112] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 3.835611] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=3D045e, idProduct=
=3D0040
[ 3.835617] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=3D1, Product=3D2, =

SerialNumber=3D0
[ 3.835622] usb 2-1: Product: Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical=EF=BF=BD
[ 3.835626] usb 2-1: Manufacturer: Microsoft
[ 4.066112] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and =

address 2
[ 4.086312] hdb: _NEC DVD+RW ND-3100AD, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[ 4.142167] hda: host max PIO4 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4=

[ 4.142312] hda: drive side 80-wire cable detection failed, limiting =
=

max speed to UDMA33
[ 4.142315] hda: UDMA/33 mode selected
[ 4.142500] hdb: host max PIO4 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4=

[ 4.142574] hdb: UDMA/33 mode selected
[ 4.142689] ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
[ 4.142805] tg3.c:v3.92.1 (June 9, 2008)
[ 4.142824] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 16
[ 4.142835] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:02:00.0 to 64
[ 4.162501] eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95751) rev 4001 PHY(5750)] (PCI =

Express) 10/100/1000Base-T Ethernet 00:11:11:45:8b:76
[ 4.162506] eth0: RXcsums[1] LinkChgREG[0] MIirq[0] ASF[0] WireSpeed[=
1] =

TSOcap[1]
[ 4.162510] eth0: dma_rwctrl[76180000] dma_mask[64-bit]
[ 4.258499] No dock devices found.
[ 4.271554] SCSI subsystem initialized
[ 4.291562] libata version 3.00 loaded.
[ 4.295565] ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: version 2.12
[ 4.295565] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[C] -> GSI 20 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 20
[ 4.295565] ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: MAP [ P0 P2 P1 P3 ]
[ 4.339932] usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 4.377694] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=3D03f0, idProduct=
=3D0004
[ 4.377700] usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=3D1, Product=3D2, =

SerialNumber=3D3
[ 4.377705] usb 3-1: Product: DeskJet 895C
[ 4.377708] usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
[ 4.377712] usb 3-1: SerialNumber: MX02M1S0HCFB
[ 4.381660] usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev
[ 4.399658] input: Microsoft Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical=EF=BF=BD a=
s =

/class/input/input1
[ 4.407660] input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.00 Mouse [Microsoft Microsoft =

Wheel Mouse Optical=EF=BF=BD] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1
[ 4.407660] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[ 4.407660] usbhid: v2.6:USB HID core driver
[ 4.459570] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.2 to 64
[ 4.463538] scsi0 : ata_piix
[ 4.463538] scsi1 : ata_piix
[ 4.463538] ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xfe00 ctl 0xfe10 bmdma 0xfea=
0 =

irq 20
[ 4.463538] ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xfe20 ctl 0xfe30 bmdma 0xfea=
8 =

irq 20
[ 4.627524] ata1.00: ATA-7: Maxtor 6Y160M0, YAR51HW0, max UDMA/133
[ 4.627524] ata1.00: 312500000 sectors, multi 8: LBA48
[ 4.743902] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
[ 4.909681] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA Maxtor 6Y160M0 =
=

YAR5 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[ 4.984025] hda: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM DVD-R-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Ca=
che
[ 4.984045] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[ 4.984025] hdb: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
[ 5.004233] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[ 5.004341] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 312500000 512-byte hardware sectors =

(160000 MB)
[ 5.004364] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[ 5.004367] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[ 5.004404] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: =

enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[ 5.004476] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 312500000 512-byte hardware sectors =

(160000 MB)
[ 5.004497] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[ 5.004500] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[ 5.004536] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: =

enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[ 5.004542] sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9 >
[ 5.056378] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
[ 5.407307] PM: Starting manual resume from disk
[ 5.440179] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
[ 5.440179] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[ 6.505935] udevd version 125 started
[ 7.267889] dcdbas dcdbas: Dell Systems Management Base Driver (versi=
on =

5.6.0-3.2)
[ 8.013165] input: Power Button (FF) as /class/input/input2
[ 8.075084] ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
[ 8.075198] input: Power Button (CM) as /class/input/input3
[ 8.136167] ACPI: Power Button (CM) [VBTN]
[ 8.635981] input: PC Speaker as /class/input/input4
[ 8.804180] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.3[B] -> GSI 17 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 17
[ 8.847395] intel_rng: Firmware space is locked read-only. If you can=
't =

or
[ 8.847399] intel_rng: don't want to disable this in firmware setup, =
=

and if
[ 8.847402] intel_rng: you are certain that your system has a functio=
nal
[ 8.847405] intel_rng: RNG, try using the 'no_fwh_detect' option.
[ 8.896857] usblp0: Disabling reads from problematic bidirectional =

printer
[ 8.912859] usblp0: USB Unidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 1 proto=
2 =

vid 0x03F0 pid 0x0004
[ 8.912859] usbcore: registered new interface driver usblp
[ 9.163648] parport_pc 00:08: reported by Plug and Play ACPI
[ 9.163709] parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTAT=
E]
[ 9.517324] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:04:01.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 17
[ 9.517324] snd-ca0106: Model 1007 Rev 00000000 Serial 10071102
[ 9.867602] Adding 2650684k swap on /dev/sda7. Priority:-1 extents:1=
=

across:2650684k
[ 10.139452] EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
[ 10.804379] loop: module loaded
[ 11.969336] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
[ 11.993553] EXT3 FS on sda9, internal journal
[ 11.993561] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[ 12.035851] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
[ 12.048070] EXT3 FS on sda8, internal journal
[ 12.048077] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[ 12.071357] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
[ 12.075608] EXT3 FS on sda5, internal journal
[ 12.075614] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[ 12.095847] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
[ 12.111846] EXT3 FS on sda6, internal journal
[ 12.111846] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[ 15.464984] tg3: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex.
[ 15.464991] tg3: eth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX.
[ 15.923756] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[ 15.923756] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[ 16.096323] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
[ 16.116470] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
[ 22.655561] Linux agpgart interface v0.103
[ 22.687563] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[ 22.716017] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low=
) =

-> IRQ 16
[ 22.716030] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:01:00.0 to 64
[ 22.716131] [drm] Initialized radeon 1.29.0 20080528 on minor 0
[ 24.805900] [drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map
[ 24.805900] [drm] Loading R300 Microcode
[ 24.805900] [drm] Num pipes: 1
[ 24.805900] [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs
[ 37.493908] eth0: no IPv6 routers present

Here is the output of dpkg-query: alsa-base 1.0.17.dfsg-4 ALSA drive=
r =

configuration files.
Looks like the alsa utils is not installed.

The Intel audio controller is still listed along with the Creative Labs =
=

audio controller in the "lspci" output: Intel Corp. 82801FR (ICH6 Family=
) =

AC'97 Audio Controller.
Stephen Powell
2010-02-24 14:25:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cecil Knutson
Stephen, This is the second time I have replied, but I don't see the
reply on the list, so here it goes again.
This is the first reply I have received. The first one must have gotten
lost in the internet somewhere. I was beginning to wonder what happened.
Post by Cecil Knutson
"Local" is in the /etc/modprobe.d directory; it has the right contents;
modprobe.conf does not exist; the "cat" command does show the contents of
the file, but I don't see anything that shows if it is plain text or not.
If it looks normal, in the output of "cat", it's plain text.
Post by Cecil Knutson
Here is a section out of the output of "lsmod" pertaining to loaded sound
snd_ca0106 27584 3
snd_ac97_codec 88452 1 snd_ca0106
snd_pcm_oss 32800 0
snd_mixer_oss 12320 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 62660 4 snd_ca0106,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 2660 0
snd_seq_oss 24992 0
snd_seq_midi 5728 0
snd_rawmidi 18496 2 snd_ca0106,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 6432 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 41456 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
I didn't see anything about snd_intel8x0 anywhere in the output.
Good. That means that the blacklist is working or the chip is on the
removed card.
Post by Cecil Knutson
... (content eliminated for brevity's sake)
I don't see anything obviously wrong at first glance. I'll take a closer
look and reply if I see a problem.
Post by Cecil Knutson
alsa-base 1.0.17.dfsg-4 ALSA driver configuration files.
Looks like the alsa utils is not installed.
That's a problem. We need that. Install cdtool as well.
Post by Cecil Knutson
The Intel audio controller is still listed along with the Creative Labs
audio controller in the "lspci" output: Intel Corp. 82801FR (ICH6 Family)
AC'97 Audio Controller.
That tells us two things: (1) the chip is not on the internal modem
card that you removed, and (2) the blacklist is working. That makes
me wonder though. Is the sound chip on the motherboard? Is there any
evidence that the manufacturer intended it to be the sound chip for
the system? Are there audio jacks on the back of the system for
speakers, microphone, line-in, line-out, etc. that are *not* on the
edge connector of your sound card? Did you install the Sound Blaster
Live card as an after-market add-on? Or did it come with the machine?
Cecil Knutson
2010-02-25 06:54:34 UTC
Permalink
Stephen,
Excuse me, I did not complete the assignment last time, alsa-utils and
cdtool are both installed. They are shown in Synaptic as being installed
and, when I issued the dpkg-query command for them, they were identified
just as was alsa-base. I didn't realize that separate commands were
needed, so it looked like alsa-utils was not installed.
No, there are no audio jacks on the system other than those on the sound
adapter card. The card is connected to the front headphone jack by an
internal cable, which is the only other audio jack on the system. The
adapter card was with the system when I got it. I did not get this system
new, but from a recycling service, so I don't know what was originally
packaged with the system. FYI: there are four jacks on the card:
mic/digital-out (blue), out 1 (green), out 2 (black), out 3 (yellow).
I can remove the heat-sink of the unidentified chip, wipe off the
conductive cream and see if it is a sound chip, if you so desire, although
I have seen many systems come through the recycling service and not one
had a sound chip with a heat-sink on it. Since the unit is identified in
lspci as an 82801 family and that is the number of the chipset, it makes
sense that it is integrated into the chipset, but I don't know for sure.
I'll see if I can find out at the Intel site if the 82801 family
integrates sound into the chipset. Yes, it does: Intel HD audio
Technology and Intel AC97 Technology. So, why didn't setting all the
"Devices" categories in the Sound Preferences dialog window to "CA0106"
work? I tried that along with setting them all to Alsa, Autodetect, and
ICH958. Hmmm. Now there is no ICH958 choice in the various device
selections. What do you think? I also noted that there are four "CA0106"
choices in Sound Events, Music and Movies, and Sound Playback, doe it
matter which of the four is chosen?
Stephen Powell
2010-02-25 14:54:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cecil Knutson
Stephen,
Excuse me, I did not complete the assignment last time, alsa-utils and
cdtool are both installed. They are shown in Synaptic as being installed
and, when I issued the dpkg-query command for them, they were identified
just as was alsa-base. I didn't realize that separate commands were
needed, so it looked like alsa-utils was not installed.
OK, good.
Post by Cecil Knutson
No, there are no audio jacks on the system other than those on the sound
adapter card. The card is connected to the front headphone jack by an
internal cable, which is the only other audio jack on the system.
Strange. This Intel chip appears to be a full-function audio chip.
But with no way to get data into or out of it, it's useless.
Post by Cecil Knutson
The adapter card was with the system when I got it. I did not get this
system new, but from a recycling service, so I don't know what was
mic/digital-out (blue), out 1 (green), out 2 (black), out 3 (yellow).
OK
Post by Cecil Knutson
I can remove the heat-sink of the unidentified chip, wipe off the
conductive cream and see if it is a sound chip, if you so desire, although
I have seen many systems come through the recycling service and not one
had a sound chip with a heat-sink on it. Since the unit is identified in
lspci as an 82801 family and that is the number of the chipset, it makes
sense that it is integrated into the chipset, but I don't know for sure.
I'll see if I can find out at the Intel site if the 82801 family
integrates sound into the chipset. Yes, it does: Intel HD audio
Technology and Intel AC97 Technology.
No, don't remove the heat sink.
So they integrated a sound chip into the chipset but then didn't provide
any way to access it. Very strange. What a waste.
Post by Cecil Knutson
So, why didn't setting all the
"Devices" categories in the Sound Preferences dialog window to "CA0106"
work? I tried that along with setting them all to Alsa, Autodetect, and
ICH958.
Again, you've got to walk before you can run. I know you want to get
sound working on the desktop. That's your ultimate goal. But first
we have to get sound working at all. Let's concentrate on that.
Post by Cecil Knutson
Hmmm. Now there is no ICH958 choice in the various device
selections. What do you think?
That's because you blacklisted the driver for it. That's good.
Post by Cecil Knutson
I also noted that there are four "CA0106"
choices in Sound Events, Music and Movies, and Sound Playback, does it
matter which of the four is chosen?
Walk first, then run. Never mind the desktop for right now.

Did you install the firmware package that I suggested in another post?

Make sure that alsa-firmware-loaders is installed. This is in "contrib";
so make sure that non-free and contrib are listed in your
/etc/apt/sources.list file. See http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm
for a sample /etc/apt/sources.list file. It's at the end of "Step 1".
Then run

aptitude update
aptitude install alsa-firmware-loaders

Then shutdown and reboot. Then run

dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils

Then shutdown and reboot again.

Then run alsamixer and check out the column names to see if PCM has shown up.
(All these commands except alsamixer must be run as root.)
Cecil Knutson
2010-02-26 02:55:27 UTC
Permalink
Stephen,
Aptitude was updated; the alsa-firmware-loaders installed; dpkg
reconfigured alsa base and alsa utils; no PCM in alsamixer. I don't
remember saying this before, so excuse me if it is being repeated, when I
had Ubuntu 9.10 installed, there were two times that the sound worked
after I had tweaked some configuration dialog window. But that was only
in separate sessions on separate days; booting the next day each time,
there was no sound again. If I remember correctly, one of those times
involved installing Flash Player 10 and updating Opera to the new
plug-in. I don't recall if I had played any audio CD then. But something
was done that made sound work, if only for a short while. That would make
me conclude that the hardware is sufficient. Would you agree? Of course,
then I knew nothing about alsa-mixer and cannot confirm that any PCM was
listed anywhere. What would you suggest doing now?
Stephen Powell
2010-02-26 11:16:35 UTC
Permalink
aptitude was updated; the alsa-firmware-loaders installed; dpkg
reconfigured alsa base and alsa utils; no PCM in alsamixer.
...
What would you suggest doing now?
I'm afraid I'm stumped, Cecil. I've never seen this before.
Every sound chip I've ever used had a PCM device in alsamixer.
What happens when you try to play a .wav file using the aplay
command? Do you get any error messages?

At this point, the only thing I can suggest is to install Squeeze
instead of Lenny and hope that the problem is fixed with newer
drivers. Lenny is getting a bit long in the tooth. It was
frozen in August of 2008. But then again, if your sound card
is significantly older than that ...

Maybe someone else on the list has some more ideas. I've
run out. Sorry I couldn't help you.
Andrei Popescu
2010-02-26 18:32:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen Powell
aptitude was updated; the alsa-firmware-loaders installed; dpkg
reconfigured alsa base and alsa utils; no PCM in alsamixer.
...
What would you suggest doing now?
I'm afraid I'm stumped, Cecil. I've never seen this before.
Every sound chip I've ever used had a PCM device in alsamixer.
What happens when you try to play a .wav file using the aplay
command? Do you get any error messages?
At this point, the only thing I can suggest is to install Squeeze
instead of Lenny and hope that the problem is fixed with newer
drivers. Lenny is getting a bit long in the tooth. It was
frozen in August of 2008. But then again, if your sound card
is significantly older than that ...
Maybe someone else on the list has some more ideas. I've
run out. Sorry I couldn't help you.
I would suggest installing the backports kernel before upgrading to
squeeze. See http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions

Regards,
Andrei
--
Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic
Stephen Powell
2010-02-26 18:39:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Andrei Popescu
I would suggest installing the backports kernel before upgrading to
squeeze. See http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions
Good idea. That's less radical.
Cecil Knutson
2010-02-27 06:33:51 UTC
Permalink
Stephen,
I get silence when trying to play a .wav file with aplay. No error
messages, just says "Playing WAVE 'Track1.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo" The sound card is, without doubt, older
than 2008. I've had the system for at least two years myself and Dell
support says the system shipped in 2004.
It is no honor to me to have stumped you. And Florian. Another mystery
with respect to Debian. I have been trying to supplant Windows since
getting Debian Potato, but there is some discrepancy with every
installation of Debian I have done that renders it less capable than
Windows. Some really weird ones, too. All I am willing to do right now
is to try another installation on a completely different system. I am not
comfortable with trying Squeeze, thank you. It seems futile after getting
sound out of Ubuntu 9.10, which has a good driver base and a recent
kernel. Do you foresee any gross problems with transferring the HD from
this system to another system and repeating the installation procedure? (I
do!! I just remembered that the HD in this system is SATA and all my other
systems are PATA.) I'm tired of wiping Windows installations for no good
reason. I had an older Dell system on which Sarge installed with no
problems whatsoever, and I was soooo pleased. Then the HD died and I
replaced it with another, reinstalled Sarge and could never get another
desktop. From just changing the HD? Give me a break, please. It is
obvious to me that I am going to have to dig into Debian just as I have
done with Windows and DOS. That is unfortunate because I have gotten to
the point with computers now that I just want them to work, I don't want
to fix them any more. I have been repairing systems for over twenty
years, and the fun is gone. Now it is just frustrating as hell to get new
technology that isn't any more capable, stable nor secure (in my
experience) than the old. Feces!! Many thanks, again.

Cecil
Lisi
2010-02-27 09:55:57 UTC
Permalink
On Saturday 27 February 2010 06:33:51 Cecil Knutson wrote:
[snipped lengthy reply with no context]

Cecil - could you possibly start interleaving or even bottom posting (after
suitsble culling) your replies? This is a very busy list and I have
difficulty following this thread.

Thanks
Lisi
Stephen Powell
2010-02-27 22:04:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cecil Knutson
I get silence when trying to play a .wav file with aplay. No error
messages, just says "Playing WAVE 'Track1.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo"
Rats. I was hoping you'd get an error message that might give us
a clue.
Post by Cecil Knutson
The sound card is, without doubt, older
than 2008. I've had the system for at least two years myself and Dell
support says the system shipped in 2004.
OK.
Post by Cecil Knutson
It is no honor to me to have stumped you. And Florian. Another mystery
with respect to Debian. I have been trying to supplant Windows since
getting Debian Potato, but there is some discrepancy with every
installation of Debian I have done that renders it less capable than
Windows. Some really weird ones, too. All I am willing to do right now
is to try another installation on a completely different system.
I was going to suggest trying a different sound card on your existing
system. But it's your call.

I have a couple of Dell systems too. One is a Dell Optiplex GX400
running Squeeze. It has sound built-in to the motherboard. alsamixer
reports the card as "Intel 82801BA-ICH2" and the chip as "Analog Devices
AD1885". Sound works fine on it. GNOME Startup and Shutdown sounds
don't work, but that's a known bug. They finally got rid of the ESD in
Squeeze, but that was a major change and disabling startup and shutdown
sounds is a workaround for a bug that hasn't been fixed yet. Once
started, GNOME system sounds works fine, although it requires some
configuration.

The other system is a Dell Dimension 4400 with a separate sound card.
It runs Lenny. alsamixer reports the card as "SBLive! Value [CT4780]"
and the chip as "TriTech TR28602". Sound works perfectly, including
GNOME system sounds.
Post by Cecil Knutson
I am not
comfortable with trying Squeeze, thank you. It seems futile after getting
sound out of Ubuntu 9.10, which has a good driver base and a recent
kernel.
You know, it could just be that something went wrong with the original
installation. Remember, you had hangs in epiphany-browser and iceweasel.
I've never seen that before.
Post by Cecil Knutson
Do you foresee any gross problems with transferring the HD from
this system to another system and repeating the installation procedure? (I
do!! I just remembered that the HD in this system is SATA and all my other
systems are PATA.)
I guess you answered your own question there.
Post by Cecil Knutson
I'm tired of wiping Windows installations for no good
reason.
Unless you don't have enough space on the hard disk for both,
you don't need to wipe Windows. ("Wipe Windows". Cute metaphor. :-) )

Most Windows installations I've seen have one big "C" drive which
takes up the whole hard disk, leaving no room for installing anything
else. But that "C" drive is mostly free space. During installation
you can shrink down the size of that partition to make room for Linux.
That's what I did on the Dell Dimension 4400. I wish I had wiped Windows
now, but I didn't. The Debian installer has support for this. Run
the installer in expert mode and choose manual partitioning. Select
the existing partition and then select "Resize partition". Not all
file systems are supported by the Debian installer for resizing.
But I do know that FAT16, FAT32, and NTFS are supported.
Post by Cecil Knutson
I had an older Dell system on which Sarge installed with no
problems whatsoever, and I was soooo pleased. Then the HD died and I
replaced it with another, reinstalled Sarge and could never get another
desktop. From just changing the HD? Give me a break, please.
That is strange. It makes me wonder if you made a mistake during
installation. But I guess we'll never know.
Post by Cecil Knutson
It is
obvious to me that I am going to have to dig into Debian just as I have
done with Windows and DOS. That is unfortunate because I have gotten to
the point with computers now that I just want them to work, I don't want
to fix them any more. I have been repairing systems for over twenty
years, and the fun is gone. Now it is just frustrating as hell to get new
technology that isn't any more capable, stable nor secure (in my
experience) than the old. Feces!! Many thanks, again.
In that case, you might want to try buying a computer with Debian
pre-installed. See http://www.debian.org/distrib/pre-installed.
This list is probably not exhaustive or up-to-date but will give
you a good start.
Cecil Knutson
2010-02-28 04:16:01 UTC
Permalink
Stephen,
Post by Stephen Powell
I was going to suggest trying a different sound card on your existing
system. But it's your call.
That is a good idea. I'll look to see what I have. Am I right to assume
that the installation will have to be repeated in order to get the sound
card recognized and configured?
Post by Stephen Powell
You know, it could just be that something went wrong with the original
installation. Remember, you had hangs in epiphany-browser and iceweasel.
I've never seen that before.
Yeah, but Opera has had delays, but not nearly as long as Epiphany or
Iceweasel, so it is hard to tell what the problem may be. And every time
I change the "To" from your address to the debian-user address, I get
multiple syntax errors from Opera (for that message and every one sent or
received afterwards) which I never got before; and I have never succeeded
in downloading YouTube videos here that were no problem in Pennsylvania,
so it is possible that the internet connection has something to do with it.
Post by Stephen Powell
Most Windows installations I've seen have one big "C" drive which
takes up the whole hard disk, leaving no room for installing anything
else.
It has been years and years since I last had one, big "C" drive for a
Windows installation. Mainly due to virus considerations. For about the
last ten years or so my usual protocol is to divide the disk into at least
three partitions (OS, Swap/Temp, Programs), but usually at least five
partitions. I have been able to clear trojan virus problems by deleting
the OS partition only (which saves all my personal info and driver files),
and the separate Swap/Temp partition eliminates a lot of the fragmentation
of the "C" drive. The multiple partitions of Debian is one of the
features that first attracted me to the OS. Oh! and multiple partitions
makes disk maintenance so much easier.
Post by Stephen Powell
That is strange. It makes me wonder if you made a mistake during
installation. But I guess we'll never know.
I made copious notes for every Debian installation that was done. Even to
the point of recording the screen prompts and my responses on a separate
laptop. And I followed my notes scrupulously during the re-installation.
And it was done more than once, believe me. But each installation failed
to give a suitable screen to the X server, even though I gave the same
H-Freq, V-Freq, resolution, monitor data, etc. And I tried several edits
of the X-server configuration file, even copying from the config file that
is created by the X-server test command.
Post by Stephen Powell
In that case, you might want to try buying a computer with Debian
pre-installed. See http://www.debian.org/distrib/pre-installed.
This list is probably not exhaustive or up-to-date but will give
you a good start.
I have looked several times at ready-to-use Debian systems but I have
never had money to spare for computers and I still don't. The only reason
I ever got into them in the first place is because my brother, as a
professional engineer, wanted a 386 machine to run AutoCAD instead of his
8088, so I bought the 8088 from him as a favor. I did pay $20 for a Mac
G4 once, but that is it. All the rest have been hand-me-downs or salvaged.
Andrei Popescu
2010-02-28 14:19:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cecil Knutson
Stephen,
Post by Stephen Powell
I was going to suggest trying a different sound card on your existing
system. But it's your call.
That is a good idea. I'll look to see what I have. Am I right to
assume that the installation will have to be repeated in order to
get the sound card recognized and configured?
Definitely not! But to keep things simple just remove the other card,
plug in the new one and (with a little bit of luck) it should just work.

[...]
Post by Cecil Knutson
The multiple partitions of Debian is one of the features that first
attracted me to the OS. Oh! and multiple partitions makes disk
maintenance so much easier.
It makes planning more complicated, not something I would recommend to
beginners. But keeping /home on a separate partition is (almost) always
a good idea.

[...]
Post by Cecil Knutson
But each installation failed to give a suitable screen to the X
server, even though I gave the same H-Freq, V-Freq, resolution,
monitor data, etc. And I tried several edits of the X-server
configuration file, even copying from the config file that is
created by the X-server test command.
This shouldn't be necessary anymore unless you have a really old
monitor.

Regards,
Andrei
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Stephen Powell
2010-03-01 16:05:49 UTC
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Post by Cecil Knutson
Post by Stephen Powell
I was going to suggest trying a different sound card on your existing
system. But it's your call.
That is a good idea. I'll look to see what I have. Am I right to assume
that the installation will have to be repeated in order to get the sound
card recognized and configured?
Probably not. Do a clean shutdown and power-off, remove the "old" sound card,
insert the "new" sound card, power-on, boot Lenny, login as root, then run

dpkg-reconfigure -plow alsa-base alsa-utils

Then shutdown and reboot.
That should do it. You might not even have to run dpkg-reconfigure, but
run it anyway just for good measure. One thing you don't want to do is
to insert a sound card that uses the same driver as the sound chip on the
motherboard. The driver is still blacklisted.
Post by Cecil Knutson
Post by Stephen Powell
You know, it could just be that something went wrong with the original
installation. Remember, you had hangs in epiphany-browser and iceweasel.
I've never seen that before.
Yeah, but Opera has had delays, but not nearly as long as Epiphany or
Iceweasel, so it is hard to tell what the problem may be. And every time
I change the "To" from your address to the debian-user address, I get
multiple syntax errors from Opera (for that message and every one sent or
received afterwards) which I never got before; and I have never succeeded
in downloading YouTube videos here that were no problem in Pennsylvania,
so it is possible that the internet connection has something to do with it.
Just out of curiosity, where is "here". In other words, where are you
physically located? And what type of internet connectivity do you have?
async dial-up? cable modem? DSL?
Post by Cecil Knutson
Post by Stephen Powell
Most Windows installations I've seen have one big "C" drive which
takes up the whole hard disk, leaving no room for installing anything
else.
It has been years and years since I last had one, big "C" drive for a
Windows installation. Mainly due to virus considerations. For about the
last ten years or so my usual protocol is to divide the disk into at least
three partitions (OS, Swap/Temp, Programs), but usually at least five
partitions. I have been able to clear trojan virus problems by deleting
the OS partition only (which saves all my personal info and driver files),
and the separate Swap/Temp partition eliminates a lot of the fragmentation
of the "C" drive. The multiple partitions of Debian is one of the
features that first attracted me to the OS. Oh! and multiple partitions
makes disk maintenance so much easier.
Well, whether it is one partition or multiple partitions, the point is that
the Debian installer has the ability to shrink down and move existing
partitions, making room to install Linux without wiping Windows. Of course,
I should issue the standard disclaimer that you should back up your hard
drive, just in case. A software bug or a power failure during the shrink
or move operation could trash the partition. But the worst case scenario
is no worse than if you had wiped Windows and started all over. I'm pretty
sure that you are still limited to a maximum of four partitions (four primary
or three primary and one extended). But the extended partition can have
multiple logical drives, and you can install pieces of Linux in both primary
partitions and logical drives.
Post by Cecil Knutson
Post by Stephen Powell
In that case, you might want to try buying a computer with Debian
pre-installed. See http://www.debian.org/distrib/pre-installed.
This list is probably not exhaustive or up-to-date but will give
you a good start.
I have looked several times at ready-to-use Debian systems but I have
never had money to spare for computers and I still don't. The only reason
I ever got into them in the first place is because my brother, as a
professional engineer, wanted a 386 machine to run AutoCAD instead of his
8088, so I bought the 8088 from him as a favor. I did pay $20 for a Mac
G4 once, but that is it. All the rest have been hand-me-downs or salvaged.
I hear you. I have one hand-me-down machine and several bought used.
None are new. None of my monitors are new either. They all all throw-aways
or give-aways. (All are CRTs, none are LCDs.)
Cecil Knutson
2010-03-02 00:44:29 UTC
Permalink
Stephen,
Post by Stephen Powell
Just out of curiosity, where is "here". In other words, where are you
physically located? And what type of internet connectivity do you have?
async dial-up? cable modem? DSL?
"Here" is Vancouver, Washington with a DSL connection through a router/hub
with Qwest. In PA I had FiOS with Verizon.
Post by Stephen Powell
pretty
sure that you are still limited to a maximum of four partitions (four primary
or three primary and one extended). But the extended partition can have
multiple logical drives, and you can install pieces of Linux in both primary
partitions and logical drives.
Yes, Windows only allows one primary partition, Debian Linux three
(counting the Swap partition), any other partition has to be an extended,
and it can be divided into no more logical partitions than the letters in
the alphabet (minus the default A: and B: for the floppy drives). Windows
7 Ultimate will only create four partitions (one primary) and
automatically creates a 100MB partition for "necessary" system files. In
my instance, that 100MB partition was always D: with C: as the first. I
finally resorted to a German version of Windows XP Multimedia Center 2005
to create more partitions to divide the 1.5TB HD being used.

I will have to buy another sound card as every other machine I have has
on-board sound chips. Or see if anyone I know has a spare sound card.
Stephen Powell
2010-03-02 01:11:32 UTC
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Post by Cecil Knutson
I will have to buy another sound card as every other machine I have has
on-board sound chips. Or see if anyone I know has a spare sound card.
In that case, are you sure I can't talk you into trying a newer kernel from
backports? Granted, your sound card is old enough to be supported by the
2.6.26 kernel that is standard with Lenny, but that doesn't mean that there
isn't a bug somewhere. I've seen a couple of other "no sound" threads since
you opened yours. Maybe a security update broke something, who knows?
Anyway, if you try a new kernel and it doesn't work for you, it's easy
enough to switch back.

Or you can try installing Linux on one of those other machines, with or
without wiping Windows.

Or you can break down, crack that wallet open,
and buy a sound card, not knowing if it will work either. If you buy one,
buy an old one that isn't driven by the driver that doesn't work for your
sound card or the blacklisted one.
Cecil Knutson
2010-03-02 01:38:41 UTC
Permalink
Stephen,
Post by Stephen Powell
In that case, are you sure I can't talk you into trying a newer kernel
from backports? Granted, your sound card is old enough to be supported
by the
2.6.26 kernel that is standard with Lenny, but that doesn't mean that
there isn't a bug somewhere. I've seen a couple of other "no sound"
threads since you opened yours. Maybe a security update broke
something, who knows? Anyway, if you try a new kernel and it doesn't
work for you, it's easy
enough to switch back.
Sure, you can talk me into it, if you will also talk me through it. It is
another procedure that is completely new to me.
Post by Stephen Powell
Or you can try installing Linux on one of those other machines, with or
without wiping Windows.
I found out that another machine does have SATA controllers, so it would
be the obvious choice for just swapping the HD out of the Dimension 8400.
Does that make sense?
Post by Stephen Powell
Or you can break down, crack that wallet open, and buy a sound card, not
knowing if it will work either. If you buy one, buy an old one that
isn't driven by the driver that doesn't work for your sound card or the
blacklisted one.
Already found someone who has a bedroom full of salvaged computer parts.
My brother will see if he has one or two sound cards.
Stephen Powell
2010-03-02 02:59:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cecil Knutson
Post by Stephen Powell
In that case, are you sure I can't talk you into trying a newer kernel
from backports?
Sure, you can talk me into it, if you will also talk me through it. It is
another procedure that is completely new to me.
A similar procedure is covered on my web site,
http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm. On that web page, I talk about
installing the Adobe Flash Player from backports.org. It's under the
heading "Web Browsing". Follow the procedure for installing
flashplugin-nonfree, except that the package name will change from
flashplugin-nonfree to the name of the kernel you want to install. I'm sorry,
but I don't remember if you have a 32-bit machine or a 64-bit machine.
I'm guessing that you have a 32-bit machine and that your kernel version
is 2.6.26-2-686. (You can verify that by issuing the command
"uname -r".) If that is the case, the equivalent package name you want from
backports is linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.2-686. Substitute that name instead
of flashplugin-nonfree in the "aptitude -t lenny-backports install ..." command.
Start the procedure with the second paragraph under "Web Browsing", which
starts with "The final compromise ...".
Post by Cecil Knutson
Post by Stephen Powell
Or you can try installing Linux on one of those other machines, with or
without wiping Windows.
I found out that another machine does have SATA controllers, so it would
be the obvious choice for just swapping the HD out of the Dimension 8400.
Does that make sense?
Yes, but if you install the hard drive in another machine I would recommend
a re-install from scratch, with a format of the Linux partitions.
Too many things are changing at once. Also, there is sometimes a "hidden
partition" on the hard drive with machine-specific stuff on it. You might
check your hardware documentation to see if there is a special procedure
for replacing the hard drive that involves copying a system partition or
something like that.
Post by Cecil Knutson
Post by Stephen Powell
Or you can break down, crack that wallet open, and buy a sound card, not
knowing if it will work either. If you buy one, buy an old one that
isn't driven by the driver that doesn't work for your sound card or the
blacklisted one.
Already found someone who has a bedroom full of salvaged computer parts.
My brother will see if he has one or two sound cards.
That's an option too. So you have a decision to make.
John Hasler
2010-03-02 01:31:38 UTC
Permalink
Debian Linux three (counting the Swap partition), any other partition
has to be an extended...
The standard pc partition scheme allows either four primary partitions
or three primaries and one extended. This limitation is imposed by the
scheme, not by Windows or Linux. An extended partition can contain any
number of logical partitions but Linux can only address a total of 63
partitions.
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Stephen Powell
2010-03-02 02:05:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Hasler
Debian Linux three (counting the Swap partition), any other partition
has to be an extended...
The standard pc partition scheme allows either four primary partitions
or three primaries and one extended. This limitation is imposed by the
scheme, not by Windows or Linux. An extended partition can contain any
number of logical partitions but Linux can only address a total of 63
partitions.
I think what Cecil meant was that fdisk under Windows only allows one
primary partition to be created, although I am not in a position to
verify that; and because of the drive letter assignment scheme, a
maximum of 24 logical drives in an extended partition can be addressed
by Windows (C-Z), with A and B being reserved for floppy drives.
Linux fdisk (or cfdisk, or sfdisk, or GNU parted) can create up to
four primary partitions or three primary partitions and one extended
partition.
Cecil Knutson
2010-03-02 02:35:47 UTC
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John,
Post by John Hasler
The standard pc partition scheme allows either four primary partitions
or three primaries and one extended. This limitation is imposed by the
scheme, not by Windows or Linux. An extended partition can contain any
number of logical partitions but Linux can only address a total of 63
partitions.
Stephen is right: I have run fdisk for years on innumerable computers and
never saw provision for the creation of more than one primary partition.
So I am speaking of experience with probably the only partitioner in
common usage. I have used and am familiar with Partition Magic, so I know
there are other schemes available, but we were addressing the capabilities
of the partitioners used in the Windows installation CD/DVD and the Lenny
CD/DVDs. Besides that, how would the partitions beyond 23 be addressed by
any Windows or Linux machine, especially if you have several USB drive
ports and one or more CD/DVD drives? And what system would anyone have
that could handle more than 26 drives? Wow! just think of having 63 1.5TB
drives! Oooola.
John Hasler
2010-03-02 04:08:16 UTC
Permalink
I have run fdisk for years on innumerable computers and never saw
provision for the creation of more than one primary partition. So I
am speaking of experience with probably the only partitioner in common
usage. I have used and am familiar with Partition Magic, so I know
there are other schemes available, but we were addressing the
capabilities of the partitioners used in the Windows installation
CD/DVD and the Lenny CD/DVDs.
I have been installing Debian with multiple primary partitions since
Buzz.
Besides that, how would the partitions beyond 23 be addressed by any
... Linux machine,
Partitions are numbered.
...especially if you have several USB drive ports and one or more
CD/DVD drives? And what system would anyone have that could handle
more than 26 drives? Wow! just think of having 63 1.5TB drives!
You confound partitions and drives. A partition is a subdivision of a
drive.
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John Hasler
Cecil Knutson
2010-03-02 06:26:39 UTC
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John,
Post by John Hasler
I have been installing Debian with multiple primary partitions since
Buzz.
It was never a question of Debian creating more than one primary
partition. I've known that since Potato.
Post by John Hasler
Besides that, how would the partitions beyond 23 be addressed by any
... Linux machine,
Partitions are numbered.
Cool. But how are the mount points handled with that many partitions?
Post by John Hasler
You confound partitions and drives. A partition is a subdivision of a
drive.
No, I am fully aware of the difference, have been for years, just getting
off on the thought of having that many drives in one box, and the news
that Linux can address 63 partitions. I haven't seen any MB's with that
many controllers but the future is not here yet. 63! I may just have to
try the HD in the Dimension 8400 in the Fujitsu machine I have to see if
Lenny will configure all its components, including the on-board sound
chip. If it works, I would be tempted to put Lenny on the 1.5TB drive
instead of the 160GB drive it is on now.
Tony Nelson
2010-03-02 18:22:11 UTC
Permalink
On 10-03-02 01:26:39, Cecil Knutson wrote:
...
...and the news that Linux can address 63 partitions. ...
...

Modern kernels use SCSI emulation for ATA and are restricted to 16
partitions per drive, so don't go wild here. (LVM is not affected.)
The reduced limit has been a problem for some Fedora users.
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Cecil Knutson
2010-03-03 07:21:22 UTC
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Tony,
Post by Tony Nelson
Modern kernels use SCSI emulation for ATA and are restricted to 16
partitions per drive, so don't go wild here. (LVM is not affected.)
The reduced limit has been a problem for some Fedora users.
But the Dell has SATA, does that make a difference in the number of
partitions?
Tony Nelson
2010-03-03 20:27:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cecil Knutson
Tony,
Post by Tony Nelson
Modern kernels use SCSI emulation for ATA and are restricted to 16
partitions per drive, so don't go wild here. (LVM is not
affected.) The reduced limit has been a problem for some Fedora
users.
But the Dell has SATA, does that make a difference in the number of
partitions?
Not at all. PATA, SATA, and SCSI are all using SCSI commands, so SCSI
emulation is now used by the kernel driver, limiting the number of
partitions to 16. This change comes from libata, and is in effect if
your disks are named /dev/sdx rather than /dev/hdx.

Only ask your question once.
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Richard Hector
2010-03-03 21:05:00 UTC
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Post by Tony Nelson
Post by Cecil Knutson
Tony,
Post by Tony Nelson
Modern kernels use SCSI emulation for ATA and are restricted to 16
partitions per drive, so don't go wild here. (LVM is not
affected.) The reduced limit has been a problem for some Fedora
users.
But the Dell has SATA, does that make a difference in the number of
partitions?
Not at all. PATA, SATA, and SCSI are all using SCSI commands, so SCSI
emulation is now used by the kernel driver, limiting the number of
partitions to 16. This change comes from libata, and is in effect if
your disks are named /dev/sdx rather than /dev/hdx.
It seems odd to me that what kind of disk/driver you use makes any
difference to the number of partitions you can have on it - I'd have
thought by the time you get to partitioning, you only care that it's a
block device.

Then again, I guess you can't partition a floppy at all, can you (well,
I think you can - I think I tried it once - but the naming doesn't cope,
so it's not much use), so maybe that argument is invalid.

I'd understand fully if scsi emulation stopped you having more than 15
drives per controller, of course, since that's likely to be an
addressing limitation carried over from the scsi bus.

Richard
Cecil Knutson
2010-03-03 07:35:47 UTC
Permalink
Tony,
Post by Tony Nelson
Modern kernels use SCSI emulation for ATA and are restricted to 16
partitions per drive, so don't go wild here. (LVM is not affected.)
The reduced limit has been a problem for some Fedora users.
The drive on the Dimension 8400 is a SATA, does that make a difference
in the number of partitions?
Cecil Knutson
2010-02-26 09:17:09 UTC
Permalink
Florian,
Sorry it took so long for me to realize I did not respond to your last
email. Here are the outputs of amixer and aplay.
dimension8400:/home/cecil# amixer
Simple mixer control 'Line in',0
Capabilities: cvolume
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Capture 0 - 255
Front Left: Capture 207 [81%] [0.00dB]
Front Right: Capture 207 [81%] [0.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
Capabilities: cvolume
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Capture 0 - 255
Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [-99999.99dB]
Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [-99999.99dB]
Simple mixer control 'Phone',0
Capabilities: cvolume
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Capture 0 - 255
Front Left: Capture 207 [81%] [0.00dB]
Front Right: Capture 207 [81%] [0.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Center/LFE',0
Capabilities: pvolume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 255
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Front',0
Capabilities: pvolume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 255
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Rear',0
Capabilities: pvolume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 255
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Unknown',0
Capabilities: pvolume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 255
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 247 [97%] [10.00dB]
Front Right: Playback 247 [97%] [10.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Aux',0
Capabilities: cvolume
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Capture 0 - 255
Front Left: Capture 207 [81%] [0.00dB]
Front Right: Capture 207 [81%] [0.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Analog Center/LFE',0
Capabilities: pvolume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 255
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Analog Front',0
Capabilities: pvolume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 255
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Analog Rear',0
Capabilities: pvolume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 255
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Analog Side',0
Capabilities: pvolume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 255
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Analog Source',0
Capabilities: cenum
Items: 'Phone' 'Mic' 'Line in' 'Aux'
Item0: 'Line in'
Simple mixer control 'CAPTURE feedback',0
Capabilities: pvolume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 255
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Digital Source',0
Capabilities: cenum
Items: 'IEC958 out' 'i2s mixer out' 'IEC958 in' 'i2s in' 'AC97 in' 'SRC
out'
Item0: 'i2s in'
Simple mixer control 'Shared Mic/Line in',0
Capabilities: cenum
Items: 'Line in' 'Mic in'
Item0: 'Line in'


dimension8400:/home/cecil# aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 0: ca0106 [CA0106]
Subdevices: 0/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 1: ca0106 [CA0106]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 2: ca0106 [CA0106]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 3: ca0106 [CA0106]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
Florian Kulzer
2010-02-26 20:34:30 UTC
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Post by Cecil Knutson
Florian,
Sorry it took so long for me to realize I did not respond to your
last email.
No problem, I was pretty busy with work anyway. You have covered a lot
of ground with Stephen Powell in the meantime, and I do not have too
many things to add to that. I never had a soundblaster card myself; all
I post here is based on general ALSA knowledge and educated guesses.
Post by Cecil Knutson
Here are the outputs of amixer and aplay.
dimension8400:/home/cecil# amixer
[ output edited ]
Post by Cecil Knutson
Simple mixer control 'Line in',0
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
Simple mixer control 'Phone',0
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Center/LFE',0
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Front',0
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Rear',0
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Unknown',0
Simple mixer control 'Aux',0
Simple mixer control 'Analog Center/LFE',0
Simple mixer control 'Analog Front',0
Simple mixer control 'Analog Rear',0
Simple mixer control 'Analog Side',0
Simple mixer control 'Analog Source',0
Capabilities: cenum
Items: 'Phone' 'Mic' 'Line in' 'Aux'
Item0: 'Line in'
Simple mixer control 'CAPTURE feedback',0
Simple mixer control 'Digital Source',0
Capabilities: cenum
Items: 'IEC958 out' 'i2s mixer out' 'IEC958 in' 'i2s in' 'AC97 in'
'SRC out'
Item0: 'i2s in'
Simple mixer control 'Shared Mic/Line in',0
Capabilities: cenum
Items: 'Line in' 'Mic in'
Item0: 'Line in'
I googled around a bit and I have seen reports that do not show a PCM
channel in asound.state for another soundblaster card (scroll to the
bottom of the page):

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/alsa-not-working-for-creative-sound-blaster-live-24-bit-sound-card-355129/

There is a relatively recent ubuntu bug report about snd-ca0106:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/361423

My problem is that I do not know what "Analog Source", "Digital Source"
and "Shared Mic/Line in" are supposed to do. You could try different
settings with these controls and also to turn turn down or mute all the
IEC958 controls (if you have not done this already.) I would also try to
turn "CAPTURE feedback" down. ALSA controls can have somewhat counter-
intuitive effects and interactions at times, so one has to test many
combinations of settings.

Apart from that I can only echo what Stephen and Andrei have suggested:
Try a newer version of ALSA with a back-ported kernel or by checking
with Squeeze. It might be helpful to know if the most recent Knoppix
live CD can get the sound going.

The other thing you can do is search for message related to the sound
module, by running

dmesg | grep -Ei 'ca0106|ac97'

right after you have booted the system.
--
Regards, |
Florian |
Cecil Knutson
2010-02-28 07:26:54 UTC
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Lisi,
Sorry, again. I haven't much experience with the list, so I don't know
what courtesies are expected. I hope you have seen that Stephen, Florian,
and I were not able to resolve the sound problem in spite of the massive
help Stephen gave. I think I will try Stephen's suggestion to swap sound
cards and see what difference that makes.
Cecil Knutson
2010-03-03 06:51:06 UTC
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Stephen,
Just finished installing Lenny on my Fujitsu which has on-board sound;
alsamixer says: PCM (100), Surround (MM), Center (MM), LFE (MM), Side
(MM), IEC958 (MM), IEC958D (00), PC Speak (100); Sound Preferences, in
the Sound Capture section, has a test sound choice which produced a
tone!; I opened up Epiphany to YouTube, made a selection and it played!
Sound works!! The lack of a PCM on the Dell seems to be the critical
error, as you said. The lspci output has the audio controller as an
Intel 82801FB and a multimedia controller as Phillips SAA7134/SAA7135HL
Video Broadcast Decoder. My brother will get another sound card soon
and I will try the Dell again just to see what difference it makes. And
Epiphany didn't hang when directed to hp.com or debian.org.
Stephen Powell
2010-03-03 17:27:45 UTC
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Post by Cecil Knutson
Just finished installing Lenny on my Fujitsu which has on-board sound;
alsamixer says: PCM (100), Surround (MM), Center (MM), LFE (MM), Side
(MM), IEC958 (MM), IEC958D (00), PC Speak (100); Sound Preferences, in
the Sound Capture section, has a test sound choice which produced a
tone!; I opened up Epiphany to YouTube, made a selection and it played!
Sound works!!
Great! Now you can do the rest of the "GNOME sound configuration",
as documented on my web site, to get the system sounds, software
sound mixing in ALSA, etc, as needed. If there is a "CD" column
in alsamixer too, you can also install cdtool and see if you can get
analog CD playing to work as well. It is superior, in my opinion,
to the "ripping" method used by most newer media players, unless you
actually want to extract a portion of the audio data and put it in
a .wav file. If you just want to listen to an audio CD, the cdtool
package, or some other analog CD player, is the way to go.

When you insert an audio CD, it will probably cause the "Sound
Juicer" of GNOME to open automatically. Just close the app
and then issue cdplay from a terminal window.
Post by Cecil Knutson
The lack of a PCM on the Dell seems to be the critical
error, as you said.
As I said, I've never seen alsamixer without a PCM column.
That set off alarm bells.
Post by Cecil Knutson
The lspci output has the audio controller as an
Intel 82801FB and a multimedia controller as Phillips SAA7134/SAA7135HL
Video Broadcast Decoder. My brother will get another sound card soon
and I will try the Dell again just to see what difference it makes. And
Epiphany didn't hang when directed to hp.com or debian.org.
That may be an important clue. There may be a hardware problem here.
Just out of curiousity, remove the old sound card from the Dell and
try Epiphany again. I'm wondering about a hardware conflict, such
as a conflicting I/O port, IRQ line, DMA channel, etc. between the installed
sound card and the on-board sound chip. Or maybe between the installed
sound card and the built-in (I'm guessing) ethernet interface chip.

I still can't believe that a motherboard manufacturer would build sound
into the board and then provide no way to access it!
Cecil Knutson
2010-03-03 07:52:58 UTC
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Tony,
You said there was an ATA limit of 16 partitons on Lenny, but the HD on
the Dimension 8400 is a SATA. Does that make a difference?
Cecil Knutson
2010-03-04 06:12:40 UTC
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Stephen,
Post by Stephen Powell
Great! Now you can do the rest of the "GNOME sound configuration",
as documented on my web site, to get the system sounds, software
sound mixing in ALSA, etc, as needed. If there is a "CD" column
in alsamixer too, you can also install cdtool and see if you can get
analog CD playing to work as well. It is superior, in my opinion,
to the "ripping" method used by most newer media players, unless you
actually want to extract a portion of the audio data and put it in
a .wav file. If you just want to listen to an audio CD, the cdtool
package, or some other analog CD player, is the way to go.
I put the HD back into the Dimension 8400 with a different sound
card; booted it on the installation done for the Fujitsu because I couldn't
get the DVD in soon enough; opened a terminal window and issued
alsamixer; and this is what I got: Master (100), Master M (100), Master
S (100), Headphon (00, no scale), PCM (100), Surround (100), Surround
(Shared, no scale), Center (100), LFE (55), Line (55). Line Jac (00, no
scale), CD (100), Mic (77), Mic Boos (00), Mic Sele (Mic 1), Phone
(100), Aux (100), Channel (2ch), DownMix (off), Exchange (MM), External
(00), High Pas (00), spread F (MM, Off), Stereo Mic (00, On),
V_Refout(00, On). Went to You Tube; selected a video; no sound; put in
a CD, no sound. So I restarted on the Lenny DVD-1, completed the
install, repeated the above and still get no sound. Lspci says the
multimedia controller is now an Aureal Semiconductor Vortex 1, and the
audio controller is the Intel 82801FB again. The different sound card
is not verified good, so that may be what is wrong, but I think there
could be something wrong with the gate on the Intel sound chip, and
could be why the machine was disposed of in the first place. I can
install Windows (either XP or 7) on the 8400 and see if sound works
under Windows, and/or install the sound card in another machine to
verify that it works, but what else could be done? What sense is there
in going through the GNOME sound configuration when it wasn't needed in
the Fujitsu?
Post by Stephen Powell
Just out of curiousity, remove the old sound card from the Dell and
try Epiphany again. I'm wondering about a hardware conflict, such
as a conflicting I/O port, IRQ line, DMA channel, etc. between the
installed sound card and the on-board sound chip. Or maybe between the
installed sound card and the built-in (I'm guessing) ethernet interface chip.

Epiphany and Iceweaselwork do not hang without the original sound card.
Post by Stephen Powell
I still can't believe that a motherboard manufacturer would build
sound into the board and then provide no way to access it!

Well, if there are no on-board ports, how else can it be accessed? It
does seem a waste, but what is to stop the manufacturer from doing it?
Stephen Powell
2010-03-04 16:08:05 UTC
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Post by Cecil Knutson
I put the HD back into the Dimension 8400 with a different sound
card; booted it on the installation done for the Fujitsu because I couldn't
get the DVD in soon enough; opened a terminal window and issued
alsamixer; and this is what I got: Master (100), Master M (100), Master
S (100), Headphon (00, no scale), PCM (100), Surround (100), Surround
(Shared, no scale), Center (100), LFE (55), Line (55). Line Jac (00, no
scale), CD (100), Mic (77), Mic Boos (00), Mic Sele (Mic 1), Phone
(100), Aux (100), Channel (2ch), DownMix (off), Exchange (MM), External
(00), High Pas (00), spread F (MM, Off), Stereo Mic (00, On),
V_Refout(00, On). Went to You Tube; selected a video; no sound; put in
a CD, no sound. So I restarted on the Lenny DVD-1, completed the
install, repeated the above and still get no sound. Lspci says the
multimedia controller is now an Aureal Semiconductor Vortex 1, and the
audio controller is the Intel 82801FB again. The different sound card
is not verified good, so that may be what is wrong, but I think there
could be something wrong with the gate on the Intel sound chip, and
could be why the machine was disposed of in the first place. I can
install Windows (either XP or 7) on the 8400 and see if sound works
under Windows, and/or install the sound card in another machine to
verify that it works, but what else could be done? What sense is there
in going through the GNOME sound configuration when it wasn't needed in
the Fujitsu?
This is the machine that you started with, except that the external
sound card and hard drive were replaced, correct? Did you remember to
blacklist the driver for the motherboard sound chip? The blacklist goes
when the hard drive goes! Then shutdown and reboot. Then run
"dpkg-reconfigure -plow alsa-base alsa-utils" for good measure,
shutdown and reboot again, and see what you've got. I think you may
be looking at that integrated sound chip that you can't connect to.
Of course, if you were unlucky enough to pick a sound card that
requires the same driver as the motherboard sound chip, you're hosed.
Issue "lsmod|grep snd" and post the output again.

Also, GNOME sound configuration is primarily for the benefit of
GNOME system sounds, such as startup, shutdown, opening and closing
window sounds, etc. Applications that run in GNOME can produce
sound even without GNOME sound configuration. The best test for
basic sound is to use the aplay utility on a .wav file, as documented
on my web site.
Post by Cecil Knutson
Epiphany and Iceweaselwork do not hang without the original sound card.
Sounds like either the original sound card was bad or there was
a hardware conflict between it and the rest of the system.
Post by Cecil Knutson
Post by Stephen Powell
I still can't believe that a motherboard manufacturer would build
sound into the board and then provide no way to access it!
Well, if there are no on-board ports, how else can it be accessed? It
does seem a waste, but what is to stop the manufacturer from doing it?
If the BIOS setup program has a way to disable it, then disable it there.
Otherwise, about all you can do is blacklist the driver.

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