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What's your favourite FLOSS?
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-26 18:12:46 UTC
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Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.

Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
accurate):

* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ quodlibet ]
* cd-ripper [ sound-juicer ]
* Desktop Environment [ GNOME ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ Python, GTK+ ]
* disc burner [ K3b ]
* e-mail client [ (none) - I use GMail ]
* file manager [ nautilus ]
* finance [ gnucash ]
* ftp [ ]
* image editor [ ]
* image viewer [ gthumb ]
* instant messenger [ ]
* mathematics [ octave ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, dpkg-www, lsof, top, uptimed, sloccount, wget ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ evince ]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* tag editor [ ex-falso ]
* terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
* text editor [ gedit, nano ]
* 3D animation [ blender ]
* video player [ ]
* web browser [ epiphany ]
* word-processor [ abiword ]
* (unreleased) [ GNU Hurd ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg ]

note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
Miles Fidelman
2006-10-26 18:30:39 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
Well.... I use Debian (and Linux) exclusively in a headless server
environment, so
very few on the list make it into my favorite application list, with the
exception
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* DBMS [ ] MySQL (though it would probably be PostGreSQL if I ever had
the time to migrate.
* development [ Python, GTK+ ] PHP
* e-mail client [ (none) - I use GMail ] Pine via terminal, otherwise
SeaMonkey remotely
* file manager [ nautilus ] bash
* ftp [ ] default ftp
*misc utilities [ sudo, grep, dpkg-www, lsof, top, uptimed, sloccount,
wget ] top
* package manager [ aptitude ] apt
* text editor [ gedit, nano ] pico, pine
Then, of course there's:

* web server: Apache
* web calendar: WebCalendar
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-26 19:07:35 UTC
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Post by Miles Fidelman
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* e-mail client [ (none) - I use GMail ] Pine via terminal, otherwise
SeaMonkey remotely
Pine is non-free, and I wanted to restrict the list to FLOSS; but it's
okay since including non-free ensures that debian-user is more
properly represented.
Post by Miles Fidelman
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* text editor [ gedit, nano ] pico, pine
Pico is also non-free...
Post by Miles Fidelman
* web server: Apache
* web calendar: WebCalendar
Thanks for these contributions, and for you efforts.
Mike McCarty
2006-10-26 18:48:20 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Ok, I don't use Debian, but my girlfriend does, on my recommendation,
so I can reply for her since I do most of the sysadmin stuff on her
machine...
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ ]
* cd-ripper [ ]
* Desktop Environment [ GNOME ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ ]
* disc burner [ K3b ]
* e-mail client [ Evolution ]
* file manager [ nautilus ]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ ]
* image editor [ ]
* image viewer [ ]
* instant messenger [ ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ ]
* pdf-reader [ acrobat reader ]
* spreadsheet [ ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
* text editor [ ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ ]
* web browser [ firefox, epiphany ]
* word-processor [ ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ ]
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
Mike
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I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you.
I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-26 19:13:44 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* web browser [ firefox, epiphany ]
So, which one is it actually?
Mike McCarty
2006-10-26 19:23:10 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* web browser [ firefox, epiphany ]
So, which one is it actually?
What do you mean? Some web sites cause firefox to crap out.
Others cause epiphany to crap out.
She uses the one which doesn't crap out.

Incidentally, you put more than one in some of *your* boxes
as well.

Mike
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p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}
This message made from 100% recycled bits.
You have found the bank of Larn.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you.
I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-26 19:47:40 UTC
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Post by Mike McCarty
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* web browser [ firefox, epiphany ]
So, which one is it actually?
What do you mean? Some web sites cause firefox to crap out.
Others cause epiphany to crap out.
She uses the one which doesn't crap out.
I just wanted some clarification. I'm just surprised that a user would
alternate between the Firefox and Epiphany.
Post by Mike McCarty
Incidentally, you put more than one in some of *your* boxes
as well.
This is acceptable. I alternate between nano and gedit, for example.

Thanks...
cothrige
2006-10-26 19:01:57 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
Okey-dokey. (I love this stuff)

* audio editor [ sox, audacity ]
* audio player [ mpd (mpc, ncmpc), cdtool, mplayer ]
* cd-ripper [ abcde ]
* Desktop Environment [ N/A ]
-- * Window Managers [ Fluxbox, ratpoison, ion3 ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ Perl (basic system stuff, and only enough to hurt myself) ]
* disc burner [ cdrecord, growisofs ]
* e-mail client [ mutt ]
* file manager [ bash ]
* finance [ No money, that is why I use Linux ;-) ]
* ftp [ ]
* image editor [ ImageMagick, GIMP ]
* image viewer [ ImageMagick, xzgv ]
* instant messenger [ centericq, Gaim ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ screen, conky, wget, bash ]
* p2p [ bittornado ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ evince ]
* spreadsheet [ ]
* tag editor [ id3v2 ]
* terminal emulator [ mrxvt ]
* text editor [ GNU emacs ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ mplayer ]
* web browser [ elinks, Firefox, Opera ]
* word-processor [ openoffice ]
* (unreleased) [ ? ]
* (great honours) [ Don't know what you mean here. Best overall
stuff perhaps? If so, GNU screen, emacs, mplayer and bash most likely. ]

I added an implied window manager, as DE seems to imply something
else. I also wonder why you left off shell? And what is great
honours exactly? I guessed, but it didn't seem to be what you meant.

Patrick
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-26 19:43:41 UTC
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Post by cothrige
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
Okey-dokey. (I love this stuff)
glad you do...
Post by cothrige
* (great honours) [ Don't know what you mean here. Best overall
stuff perhaps? If so, GNU screen, emacs, mplayer and bash most likely. ]
I can't say Bash is my favourite shell because it's the default, and I
never tried anything else. Nevertheless I do greatly honour it, same
as I do Linux, GCC, Xorg, and GLibC. None of these pieces are
romantic, yet are all truly essential for any GNU/Linux system. I
consider them the most important pieces of FLOSS.
Post by cothrige
I added an implied window manager, as DE seems to imply something
else. I also wonder why you left off shell? And what is great
honours exactly? I guessed, but it didn't seem to be what you meant.
It's fine to include the shell as well, even though one won't normally
call it an application -- It's more of an essential system component.
cothrige
2006-10-26 20:06:05 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by cothrige
* (great honours) [ Don't know what you mean here. Best overall
stuff perhaps? If so, GNU screen, emacs, mplayer and bash most likely. ]
I can't say Bash is my favourite shell because it's the default, and I
never tried anything else. Nevertheless I do greatly honour it, same
as I do Linux, GCC, Xorg, and GLibC. None of these pieces are
romantic, yet are all truly essential for any GNU/Linux system. I
consider them the most important pieces of FLOSS.
Ah, I see now. I should have noticed that you had Linux in that
group, but I overlooked it. I think that may have tipped me off to
what you had in mind. In that case, I would essentially agree with
your list in that category.

Patrick
Marc Shapiro
2006-10-26 22:23:23 UTC
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Marc Shapiro wrote:

(Appologies to Patrick, to whom I accidentally sent this, instead of to
the list.)
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
* audio editor [ sox ]
* audio player [ xine ]
* cd-ripper [ ]
* Desktop Environment [ N/A ]
-- * Window Managers [ fvwm2 ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ Python ]
* disc burner [ ]
* e-mail client [ thunderbird ]
* file manager [ ]
* finance [ No money, that is why I use Linux ;-) ]
* ftp [ ]
* image editor [ ImageMagick, GIMP ]
* image viewer [ ]
* instant messenger [ ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ xpdf ]
* spreadsheet [ openoffice.org ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ mrxvt ]
* text editor [ pico, nano ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ xine ]
* web browser [ Firefox, Opera ]
* word-processor [ openoffice.org ]
* (unreleased) [ ? ]
* (great honours) [ ]
--
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What?! Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here.
Boom. Sooner or later ... boom!

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José Alburquerque
2006-10-26 19:48:03 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
Haven't been using debian for more than a few months, but here's some of
my favorites: :-)
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* audio editor [ GLAME, audacity ]
* audio player [ xmms, rhythmbox ]
* cd-ripper [ grip ]
* Desktop Environment [ GNOME ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ anjuta, gtkmm, java ]
* disc burner [ nautilus-cd-burner (really nice because it's
"integrated" to desktop, ie. sort of "reacts" when blank discs are
inserted, etc.) ]
* e-mail client [ Mozilla Mail, Thunderbird ]
* file manager [ nautilus ]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ gftp ]
* image editor [ GIMP (Don't use that much) ]
* image viewer [ gthumb ]
* instant messenger [ ekiga (this one is an "offshoot" of gnomemeeting
and allows for videoconferencing) ]
* mathematics [ calculator ]
* misc utilities [ cron, sudo, dpkg, apt-get ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ synaptic ]
* pdf-reader [ evince, xpdf ]
* spreadsheet [ openoffice ]
* tag editor [ easytag ]
* terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
* text editor [ vi, gedit ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ mplayer ]
* web browser [ mozilla browser ]
* word-processor [ openoffice ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ Linux, GCC, Bash, Xorg ]
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
I've placed them from most to least preferred (though I use them all
when needed!)
--
Sincerely
Jose Alburquerque
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-27 13:38:19 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* mathematics [ calculator ]
Which is this? Can't find it in Debian...
José Alburquerque
2006-10-27 18:19:52 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* mathematics [ calculator ]
Which is this? Can't find it in Debian...
Sorry, I meant 'gcalctool'. I'm not sure it's a package, but it's the
command that brings up the gnome calculator...
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Jochen Schulz
2006-10-27 19:07:20 UTC
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Post by José Alburquerque
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* mathematics [ calculator ]
Which is this? Can't find it in Debian...
Sorry, I meant 'gcalctool'. I'm not sure it's a package, but it's the
command that brings up the gnome calculator...
$ dpkg -S `which gcalctool`
gcalctool: /usr/bin/gcalctool

J.
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2006-10-27 19:18:30 UTC
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Post by Jochen Schulz
Post by José Alburquerque
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* mathematics [ calculator ]
Which is this? Can't find it in Debian...
Sorry, I meant 'gcalctool'. I'm not sure it's a package, but it's the
command that brings up the gnome calculator...
$ dpkg -S `which gcalctool`
gcalctool: /usr/bin/gcalctool
J.
Thanks for that. Appreciate it! :-)
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Andrei Popescu
2006-10-26 19:54:59 UTC
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* cd-ripper [ jack ]
* audio player [ ogg123, mpg321, moc, bmp ]
* Desktop Environment [ IceWM-experimental ]
* disc burner [ K3b ]
* e-mail client [ sylpheed-claws-gtk2, mutt-ng ]
* file manager [ mc ]
* ftp [ none I use sftp ]
* image viewer [ gtkview, gqview, but still looking ]
* instant messenger [ gaim ]
* misc utilities [ screen, su, ssh, locate, less, tail, grep ]
* p2p [ bittornado ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* terminal emulator [ mlterm ]
* text editor [ mcedit, leafpad ]
* video player [ vlc, mplayer, xine ]
* web browser [ firefox -> iceweasel ]
* word-processor [ abiword, lyx ]
Regards,
Andrei
P.S. I rather used package names
--
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)
Kelly Clowers
2006-10-26 20:01:29 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
* audio editor [ Audacity ]
* audio player [ Amarok ]
* cd-ripper [ Sound-Juicer ]
* Desktop Environment | WM [ Fluxbox ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ ]
* disc burner [ K3B ]
* e-mail client [ Mozilla (SeaMonkey) Mail/News ]
* file manager [ Bash, Konqueror ]
* finance [ KMyMoney ]
* ftp [ Konqueror ]
* image editor [ Krita ]
* image viewer [ ]
* instant messenger [ Psi ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, lsof, wget, ssh ]
* p2p [ KTorrent ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ evince ]
* spreadsheet [ KSpread ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ xterm ]
* text editor [ vim, scite, kate ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ ]
* web browser [ Mozilla (SeaMonkey) ]
* word-processor [ Kword ]
* (unreleased) [ Haiku ]
* (great honours) [ Dbus, DemocracyPlayer, Debian, bash, vim, Xorg,
svn, ikiwiki ]

* web server [apache]
* web framework [ ikiwiki ]
* other servers [ sshd, PowerDNS ]


Cheers,
Kelly
Ron Johnson
2006-10-26 20:05:46 UTC
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Hi,
REACH Waxed (Mint).

- --
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Jefferson LA USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
John K Masters
2006-10-26 20:24:41 UTC
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:12:46 +0200
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
I only use Debian on my remote web servers so no GUI stuff

* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ ]
* cd-ripper [ ]
* Desktop Environment [ ]
* DBMS [MySQL ]
* development [ Python, Zope ]
* disc burner [ ]
* e-mail client [ ]
* file manager [ ]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ vsftpd ]
* image editor [ ]
* image viewer [ ]
* instant messenger [ ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [grep, top, wget ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ apt ]
* pdf-reader [ ]
* spreadsheet [ ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ ]
* text editor [ vi ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ ]
* web browser [ ]
* word-processor [ ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash ]

John
Sven Arvidsson
2006-10-26 20:29:06 UTC
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* audio editor [ audacity ]
* audio player [ rhythmbox ]
* cd-ripper [ sound-juicer ]
* Desktop Environment [ GNOME ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ Python, GTK+ ]
* disc burner [ brasero, nautilus-cd-burner ]
* e-mail client [ evolution ]
* file manager [ nautilus ]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ yafc, nautilus ]
* image editor [ gimp, inkscape ]
* image viewer [ gthumb, f-spot ]
* instant messenger [ gaim ]
* mathematics [ qalculate-gtk ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, top, ssh ]
* p2p [ deluge, nicotine+ ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ evince ]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* tag editor [ ex-falso ]
* terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
* text editor [ emacs, gedit ]
* 3D animation [ blender ]
* video player [ totem-gstreamer, mplayer ]
* web browser [ epiphany ]
* word-processor [ abiword ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ rockbox ]
--
Cheers,
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Jochen Schulz
2006-10-26 21:09:34 UTC
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* cd-ripper [ abcde ]
* Desktop Environment [ none (IceWM as WM) ]
* development [ Python ]
* e-mail client [ mutt ]
* browser [ firefox -- I use it since Phoenix 0.4 days but start to
hate it. It's only the large number of useful
extensions that keep me using it. Some kind of
vendor lock-in, I suppose. ]
* file manager [ thunar ]
* ftp [ lftp -- also does sftp and the like and supports resuming, even
for sftp. ]
* p2p [ rtorrent -- allows for throttling down-/upload speed! ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* tag editor [ ex-falso, easytag -- one of them cannot tag FLAC files,
so I always have to resort to the
other one. ]
* terminal emulator [ xfce4-terminal ]
* text editor [ (g)vim ]
* video player [ totem, mplayer ]
* word-processor [ LaTeX ;-) ]

I specifically recommend thunar and xfce4-terminal, as both of them are
faster than their Gnome counterparts and have a few features I really
like.

J.
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attractive.
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Miles Bader
2006-10-26 21:57:40 UTC
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Post by Jochen Schulz
* ftp [ lftp -- also does sftp and the like and supports resuming,
even for sftp. ]
Hmm, lftp does sftp too?!? It's been a long time since I've used it,
but it looks like I'll have to check it out again (the standard sftp
client is decent, but a bit bare-bones for interactive use).

[I'm finding little poll very useful, seeing what cool programs others
use which I may have missed!]

-Miles
--
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
Jochen Schulz
2006-10-27 08:15:25 UTC
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Post by Miles Bader
Post by Jochen Schulz
* ftp [ lftp -- also does sftp and the like and supports resuming,
even for sftp. ]
Hmm, lftp does sftp too?!? It's been a long time since I've used it,
but it looks like I'll have to check it out again (the standard sftp
client is decent, but a bit bare-bones for interactive use).
Yes, it's a really nice client. And finally you can resume that 1GB
upload to a friend's machine via a DSL uplink that's likely to be
terminated in the meantime.

J.
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same job.
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Kamaraju Kusumanchi
2006-10-26 21:17:38 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Have you considered using the data available at popularity contest?

http://popcon.debian.org/

raju
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http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/
http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/
Miles Bader
2006-10-26 21:44:59 UTC
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* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ xmms ]
* cd-ripper [ ]
* Desktop Environment [ gnome ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ g++, gdb, tla, lua, libfltk ]
* disc burner [ ]
* e-mail client [ gnus (in emacs), mutt ]
* file manager [ ]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ sftp ]
* image editor [ gimp ]
* image viewer [ gqview ]
* instant messenger [ bitlbee (+ emacs irc client) ]
* mathematics [ octave, gnuplot, calc (in emacs) ]
* misc utilities [ awk, interdiff, patch, diff, sudo ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ xpdf ]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
* text editor [ emacs ]
* 3D animation [ blender (1) ]
* video player [ gxine ]
* web browser [ firefox ]
* word-processor [ latex, oowriter (2) ]
* (great honours) [ emacs, gcc/g++, gdb, libstdc++, glibc, linux, xorg ]

(1) but it's too damn slow!
(2) a giant bloated whale, but actually seems to work pretty well for
light word-processing duties and reading .doc files I get in the mail

(*) I don't actually use lua and libfltk yet, but I greatly admire them,
and plan to use them in the future.

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Miles Bader
2006-10-26 22:04:02 UTC
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Oh, add "ssh" to "misc utilities" too:

* misc utilities [ awk, interdiff, patch, diff, ssh, sudo ]

It's such a fundamental part of daily use, I hardly notice it any more!

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2006-10-27 15:58:59 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ xmms ]
* cd-ripper [ ]
* Desktop Environment [ gnome ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ g++, gdb, tla, lua, libfltk ]
* disc burner [ ]
* e-mail client [ gnus (in emacs), mutt ]
* file manager [ ]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ sftp ]
* image editor [ gimp ]
* image viewer [ gqview ]
* instant messenger [ bitlbee (+ emacs irc client) ]
* mathematics [ octave, gnuplot, calc (in emacs) ]
* misc utilities [ awk, interdiff, patch, diff, sudo ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ xpdf ]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
* text editor [ emacs ]
* 3D animation [ blender (1) ]
* video player [ gxine ]
* web browser [ firefox ]
* word-processor [ latex, oowriter (2) ]
* (great honours) [ emacs, gcc/g++, gdb, libstdc++, glibc, linux, xorg ]
(1) but it's too damn slow!
(2) a giant bloated whale, but actually seems to work pretty well for
light word-processing duties and reading .doc files I get in the mail
(*) I don't actually use lua and libfltk yet, but I greatly admire them,
and plan to use them in the future.
I was just about to mention that you are an Emacs fan, and then I
noticed the mail address. Thanks for the interesting list...
Andrei Popescu
2006-10-27 19:20:56 UTC
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Post by Miles Bader
(2) a giant bloated whale, but actually seems to work pretty well for
light word-processing duties and reading .doc files I get in the mail
Maybe you should try abiword.

Regards,
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h***@topoi.pooq.com
2006-10-27 22:55:38 UTC
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Post by Andrei Popescu
Post by Miles Bader
(2) a giant bloated whale, but actually seems to work pretty well for
light word-processing duties and reading .doc files I get in the mail
Maybe you should try abiword.
Does abiword do a decent job with Word files?
Andrei Popescu
2006-10-27 23:29:12 UTC
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Post by h***@topoi.pooq.com
Post by Andrei Popescu
Post by Miles Bader
(2) a giant bloated whale, but actually seems to work pretty well for
light word-processing duties and reading .doc files I get in the mail
Maybe you should try abiword.
Does abiword do a decent job with Word files?
--
I don't know about complex ones, but I never had problems with simple
files.

Regards,
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Miles Bader
2006-10-28 00:19:15 UTC
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Post by Andrei Popescu
Post by Miles Bader
(2) a giant bloated whale, but actually seems to work pretty well for
light word-processing duties and reading .doc files I get in the mail
Maybe you should try abiword.
Yeah, I used to use abiword back in the day, but it was always
_horribly_ flaky -- it crashed a lot, even on simple documents, and
seemed to randomly reformat text in odd ways based on the phase of the
moon.

oowriter is indeed very bloated, and also used to be kind of flaky
(never as bad as abiword in my experience though), but it seems pretty
good these days. I suppose abiword has probably improved as well, so I
should at least check it out, but I'm pretty put off by my previous
experiences with it.

-Miles
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cothrige
2006-10-28 03:51:37 UTC
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Post by Miles Bader
Post by Andrei Popescu
Post by Miles Bader
(2) a giant bloated whale, but actually seems to work pretty well for
light word-processing duties and reading .doc files I get in the mail
Maybe you should try abiword.
Yeah, I used to use abiword back in the day, but it was always
_horribly_ flaky -- it crashed a lot, even on simple documents, and
seemed to randomly reformat text in odd ways based on the phase of the
moon.
I have had this same experience. I can recall some time back and
everyone seemed to be raving about abiword and its meagre footprint.
I couldn't really use it though as it would crash about three minutes
into every document I would work on. And not when doing something
really, but just inputting text. Very flaky indeed. I wonder if it
has improved since. I may have to try it just to see.

Patrick
Mathias Brodala
2006-10-26 22:23:22 UTC
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Hi.
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
[…]
OK, why not:

* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ Exaile ]
* cd-ripper [ grip, sound-juicer ]
* Desktop Environment [ Xfce ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ PHP, C ]
* disc burner [ Brasero ]
* e-mail client [ Icedove ]
* file manager [ Thunar ]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ gftp, filezilla ]
* image editor [ GIMP ]
* image viewer [ gthumb, eog ]
* instant messenger [ gaim ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ htop, bash ]
* p2p [ Azureus ]
* package manager [ synaptic, apt-get ]
* pdf-reader [ evince ]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric, OOo Calc ]
* tag editor [ Exaile, id3v2 ]
* terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
* text editor [ vim, gedit ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ Totem, mplayer, VLC ]
* web browser [ Opera ]
* word-processor [ OOo Writer ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ IEs4Linux, Xfwm4, qemu ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
But it’s not that bad if you are.


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2006-10-26 22:37:49 UTC
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--> Hi,
--> A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
--> winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
--> Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
--> who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
-->
--> Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
--> the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
--> them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
-->
--> * audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ Totem]
--> * cd-ripper [ ]
* Desktop Environment [ KDE ]
--> * DBMS [ ]
* development [ Python, GTK+ ]
* disc burner [ XCDRoast-CD growisofs-DVD ]
* e-mail client [ Kmail ]
* file manager [ Konqueror ]
--> * finance [ ]
--> * ftp [ ]
* image editor [Gimp ]
* image viewer [ Kuickshow ]
--> * instant messenger [ ]
--> * mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ cat, lsof, top, man, eject, pon, poff, su, dict, ls,
startx, whereis, mkdir, dmesg, ] --> * p2p [ ]
* package manager [ synaptic ]
* pdf-reader [ xpdf ]
* spreadsheet [ OpenOffice.org ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ Konsole ]
* text editor [ Kedit ]
--> * 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ Totem]
* web browser [ Konqueror - where it can't go Firefox ]
* word-processor [ Lyx ]
--> * (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg, Gkrellm ]
-->
--> note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
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Gerard Robin
2006-10-27 00:33:20 UTC
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Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ cdcd, moc ]
* cd-ripper [ grip ]
* Desktop Environment [icewm ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ Perl ]
* disc burner [wodim]
* e-mail client [ mutt, sylpheed]
* file manager [ mc ]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ ]
* image editor [imagemagick, gimp ]
* image viewer [ gqview, eog ]
* instant messenger [ ]
* mathematics [ bc, ggnuplot, yorick ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, su, less, locate, grep, wget, find, mount, eject ]
* p2p [ gtk-gnutella ]
* package manager [ dpkg, apt ]
* pdf-reader [xpdf]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ xterm, gnome-terminal ]
* text editor [ vim, xemacs ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [vlc]
* web browser [ links2, dillo, firefox ]
* word-processor [ lyx, ted ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg ]
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 09:02:07 UTC
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* mathematics [ bc, ggnuplot, yorick ]
Is this a typo for gnuplot, or really the unpackaged ggnuplot?
Gerard Robin
2006-10-29 10:57:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: What's your favourite FLOSS?
* mathematics [ bc, ggnuplot, yorick ]
Is this a typo for gnuplot, or really the unpackaged ggnuplot?
typo ( ;-) ) exp 1000
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Douglas Tutty
2006-10-26 23:37:20 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ workman ]
* cd-ripper [ ]
* Desktop Environment [ icewm ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ Python]
* disc burner [ Xcdroast ]
* e-mail client [ mutt ]
* file manager [ mc ]
* finance [ python/postgresql ]
* ftp [ mc ]
* image editor [ ]
* image viewer [ gqview ]
* instant messenger [ ]
* mathematics [ python, gnumeric]
* misc utilities [ wget bzip2 tar df du ls cat split ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ xpdf ]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ rxvt minicom ]
* text editor [ vim]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ ]
* web browser [ lynx dillo mozilla ]
* word-processor [ lout ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ ]
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 10:10:18 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* finance [ python/postgresql ]
How does this work?
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* mathematics [ python, gnumeric]
Interesting...
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* misc utilities [ wget bzip2 tar df du ls cat split ]
Is the package name splitvt? I can't find split in Debian...
David Jardine
2006-10-29 19:31:46 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* finance [ python/postgresql ]
How does this work?
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* mathematics [ python, gnumeric]
Interesting...
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* misc utilities [ wget bzip2 tar df du ls cat split ]
Is the package name splitvt? I can't find split in Debian...
It's in coreutils.
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-30 10:51:01 UTC
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Post by David Jardine
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Is the package name splitvt? I can't find split in Debian...
It's in coreutils.
Silly me! I even used it for a while, just totally forgot about it. Thanks...
amateur
2006-10-27 01:34:15 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ beep-media-player ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* cd-ripper [ ]
* Desktop Environment [ fvwm ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ GTK+ ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* disc burner [ ]
* e-mail client [ mutt ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* file manager [ ]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ lftp ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* image editor [ ]
* image viewer [ gqview, imagemagick ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* instant messenger [ ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, lsof, top, wget ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ apt ]
* pdf-reader [ acroread, xpdf ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* tag editor [ ex-falso ]
* terminal emulator [ mlterm ]
* text editor [ vim ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* 3D animation [ blender ]
* video player [ mplayer, totem ]
* web browser [ firefox ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* word-processor [ abiword ]
* (unreleased) [ GNU Hurd ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 10:26:12 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* (unreleased) [ GNU Hurd ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg ]
Just wanted to make sure whether or not this is accidental, since
these look exactly like mine...
aliosha samodossi
2006-10-27 01:56:51 UTC
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My favorite apps
* audio editor [ audacity]
* audio player [ xmms ]
* cd-ripper [ abcde ]
* Desktop Environment [ fluxbox ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ ]
* disc burner [ gnomebaker ]
* e-mail client [ mutt ]
* file manager [ mc ]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ ]
* image editor [ ]
* image viewer [ gthumb ]
* instant messenger [ centericq ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ apt-get ]
* pdf-reader [ xpdf ]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* tag editor [ easytag ]
* terminal emulator [ rxvt ]
* text editor [ mcedit, nano ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ ]
* web browser [ epiphany, elinks, firefox ]
* word-processor [ abiword ]
* (unreleased) [ GNU Hurd ]
* (great honours) [ ]
Rodney D. Myers
2006-10-27 02:04:33 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:12:46 +0200
Post by Sven Arvidsson
* audio editor [ audacity ]
* audio player [ xmms ]
* cd-ripper [ ]
* Desktop Environment [ KDE, windowmaker ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ ]
* disc burner [ K3b ]
* e-mail client [ sylpheed-claws ]
* file manager [ mc, worker ]
* finance [ moneydance ]
* ftp [ gftp ]
* image editor [ gimp ]
* image viewer [ xv ]
* instant messenger [ gaim ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, top, wget ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ synaptic ]
* pdf-reader [ acroread ]
* spreadsheet [ openoffice ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ konsole ]
* text editor [ emacs, nano ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ mplayer ]
* web browser [ firefox ]
* word-processor [ openoffice ]
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 10:45:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sven Arvidsson
* image viewer [ xv ]
What package provides this, if it's in Debian?
h***@topoi.pooq.com
2006-10-29 13:05:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Sven Arvidsson
* image viewer [ xv ]
What package provides this, if it's in Debian?
Probably xv, by John Bradley, which is not free software and, as far as
I know, not packaged or packageable by Debbian.

There's also a new thing called XV -- an X extension for video.

-- hendrik
Stephen Cormier
2006-10-27 02:16:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
* audio editor [ Audacity]
* audio player [ Amarok, Xmms ]
* cd-ripper [ Grip ]
* Desktop Environment [ KDE ]
* disc burner [ K3b ]
* e-mail client [ Kmail ]
* file manager [ Konqueror, command line ]
* finance [ KMyMoney ]
* ftp [ Konqueror ]
* image editor [ Krita ]
* image viewer [ Embeded in Konqueror or Krita ]
* misc utilities [ grep, dpkg-www, lsof, top, wget, su ]
* p2p [ Ktorrent ]
* package manager [ apt ]
* pdf-reader [ Kpdf or Konqueror embeded ]
* spreadsheet [ Kspread ]
* tag editor [ Easytag ]
* terminal emulator [ Konsole ]
* text editor [ Vim ]
* video player [ Kplayer, Kaffeine, Mplayer, VLC whichever works with media
viewed ]
* web browser [ Konqueror ]
* word-processor [ Kwrite, Kword ]
* desktop publishing [ Scribus ]
* file archiver [ Ark, tar ]
* system monitoring [ Gkrellm, lm-sensors ]
* TV app [ XDTV ]
* video editing/encoding/transcoding [ Avidemux, ToVid, Mencoder, FFmpeg ]
* (great honours) [ All Apps, Utitilies, etc ... ]

As you can see I added a couple of categories.

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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 14:02:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen Cormier
* word-processor [ Kwrite, Kword ]
Do you mean Kate when you mention Kwrite? I searched Debian and
couldn't find Kwrite.
Hal Vaughan
2006-10-29 15:15:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Stephen Cormier
* word-processor [ Kwrite, Kword ]
Do you mean Kate when you mention Kwrite? I searched Debian and
couldn't find Kwrite.
KDE has 3 (that I know of) text editors: Kate (my favorite and my IDE
for years, since all I needed was the text editor and a console),
KWrite, and KWord.

apt-cache search KWrite

shows only 2 packages, one of which is Kate, but it says, "Kate is a
multi document editor, based on a rewritten version of the kwrite
editing widget of KDE." and also says, "This package is part of KDE,
and a component of the KDE base module."

My workstation runs Kubuntu and KWrite was installed with the default
and KWrite has shown up before when I've added KDE to a system, so I
suspect it is included in the KDE base.

Hal
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 15:27:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hal Vaughan
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Stephen Cormier
* word-processor [ Kwrite, Kword ]
Do you mean Kate when you mention Kwrite? I searched Debian and
couldn't find Kwrite.
My workstation runs Kubuntu and KWrite was installed with the default
and KWrite has shown up before when I've added KDE to a system, so I
suspect it is included in the KDE base.
I also suspected that it's included in some KDE package. Thanks...
Stephen Cormier
2006-10-29 17:12:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Stephen Cormier
* word-processor [ Kwrite, Kword ]
Do you mean Kate when you mention Kwrite? I searched Debian and
couldn't find Kwrite.
Apparently I do it seems that Kate provides the /usr/bin/kwrite binary.

Stephen
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 14:21:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen Cormier
* file manager [ Konqueror, command line ]
Many entries mentioned Bash as file manager, and please tell if Bash
is the shell you are using so that I could put it here instead of
'command line'.
Post by Stephen Cormier
* pdf-reader [ Kpdf or Konqueror embeded ]
Konqueror is everything isn't it. I didn't know it can also view pdf's.
Post by Stephen Cormier
* file archiver [ Ark, tar ]
I put the category of 'misc utilities' for such things not deserving a
separate category. I'll recognize it as a separate category if there's
enough votes for file archiving.
Post by Stephen Cormier
* system monitoring [ Gkrellm, lm-sensors ]
Many put this sort in misc utilities, but probably does deserve a
separate category.
Post by Stephen Cormier
* TV app [ XDTV ]
* video editing/encoding/transcoding [ Avidemux, ToVid, Mencoder, FFmpeg ]
These are interesting additions. It's even surprising that there
weren't entries for Mencoder. I'll put my vote in for it since I use
nothing else to encode video, and find its tremendous amount of
features exciting.
Stephen Cormier
2006-10-29 17:20:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Stephen Cormier
* file manager [ Konqueror, command line ]
Many entries mentioned Bash as file manager, and please tell if Bash
is the shell you are using so that I could put it here instead of
'command line'.
Yes bash for the shell so therefore the command line.
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Stephen Cormier
* pdf-reader [ Kpdf or Konqueror embeded ]
Konqueror is everything isn't it. I didn't know it can also view pdf's.
Certainly is like a Swiss Army knife it does so many things using the kio
slaves and embedding I forget half of them sometimes.
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Stephen Cormier
* file archiver [ Ark, tar ]
I put the category of 'misc utilities' for such things not deserving a
separate category. I'll recognize it as a separate category if there's
enough votes for file archiving.
Post by Stephen Cormier
* system monitoring [ Gkrellm, lm-sensors ]
Many put this sort in misc utilities, but probably does deserve a
separate category.
Post by Stephen Cormier
* TV app [ XDTV ]
* video editing/encoding/transcoding [ Avidemux, ToVid, Mencoder, FFmpeg ]
These are interesting additions. It's even surprising that there
weren't entries for Mencoder. I'll put my vote in for it since I use
nothing else to encode video, and find its tremendous amount of
features exciting.
Yeah a real nice little app.

Stephen
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Rodrigo Paes
2006-10-27 02:58:07 UTC
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* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ XMMS ]
* cd-ripper [ ]
* Desktop Environment [ fluxbox ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ ]
* disc burner [ gnome-toaster ]
* e-mail client [ thunderbird ]
* file manager [ xterm]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ ncftp ]
* image editor [ gimp ]
* image viewer [ gthumb ]
* instant messenger [ gaim ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, lsof, top, wget, meld, ssh ]
* p2p [ bittorrent ]
* package manager [ dselect , apt-get ]
* pdf-reader [ evince ]
* spreadsheet [ openoffice, gnumeric ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ xterm ]
* text editor [ gedit, vi ]
* 3D animation [ blender ]
* video player [ mplayer ]
* web browser [ firefox ]
* word-processor [ openoffice, abiword ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg, ]

[]s
rodrigo
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ quodlibet ]
* cd-ripper [ sound-juicer ]
* Desktop Environment [ GNOME ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ Python, GTK+ ]
* disc burner [ K3b ]
* e-mail client [ (none) - I use GMail ]
* file manager [ nautilus ]
* finance [ gnucash ]
* ftp [ ]
* image editor [ ]
* image viewer [ gthumb ]
* instant messenger [ ]
* mathematics [ octave ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, dpkg-www, lsof, top, uptimed, sloccount, wget ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ evince ]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* tag editor [ ex-falso ]
* terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
* text editor [ gedit, nano ]
* 3D animation [ blender ]
* video player [ ]
* web browser [ epiphany ]
* word-processor [ abiword ]
* (unreleased) [ GNU Hurd ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg ]
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
--
Jeff Zhang
2006-10-27 07:09:05 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ quodlibet ]
* cd-ripper [ sound-juicer ]
* Desktop Environment [ GNOME ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ Python, GTK+ ]
* disc burner [ K3b ]
* e-mail client [ (none) - I use GMail ]
* file manager [ nautilus ]
* finance [ gnucash ]
* ftp [ ]
* image editor [ ]
* image viewer [ gthumb ]
* instant messenger [ ]
* mathematics [ octave ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, dpkg-www, lsof, top, uptimed,
sloccount, wget ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ evince ]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* tag editor [ ex-falso ]
* terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
* text editor [ gedit, nano ]
* 3D animation [ blender ]
* video player [ ]
* web browser [ epiphany ]
* word-processor [ abiword ]
* (unreleased) [ GNU Hurd ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg ]
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
* audio editor [ audacity ]
* audio player [ music123 ]
* cd-ripper [ sound-juicer ]
* Desktop Environment [ fluxbox ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ Python ]
* disc burner [ mkisofs+wodim ]
* e-mail client [ seamonkey ]
* file manager [ pcmanfm, mc ]
* finance [ gnucash ]
* ftp [ lftp ]
* image editor [ gimp ]
* image viewer [ gthumb ]
* instant messenger [ gaim ]
* mathematics [ scilab ]
* misc utilities [ ]
* p2p [ amule ]
* package manager [ apt ]
* pdf-reader [ evince, acroread, xpdf ]
* spreadsheet [ OOo ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ urxvt+screen ]
* text editor [ vim, emacs ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ mplayer ]
* web browser [ seamonkey ]
* word-processor [ OOo ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg ]
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 15:12:50 UTC
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Post by Jeff Zhang
* terminal emulator [ urxvt+screen ]
I can't find urxvt in Debian. The only reference is from the
yeahconsole package, and its states that it supports both urxvt and
xterm.
Angelina Carlton
2006-10-29 19:27:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Jeff Zhang
* terminal emulator [ urxvt+screen ]
I can't find urxvt in Debian. The only reference is from the
yeahconsole package, and its states that it supports both urxvt and
xterm.
Its packaged as rxvt-unicode
--
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***@magma.ca
web:bzgirl.bakadigital.com
--------------------------
Jeff Zhang
2006-10-27 07:15:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ quodlibet ]
* cd-ripper [ sound-juicer ]
* Desktop Environment [ GNOME ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ Python, GTK+ ]
* disc burner [ K3b ]
* e-mail client [ (none) - I use GMail ]
* file manager [ nautilus ]
* finance [ gnucash ]
* ftp [ ]
* image editor [ ]
* image viewer [ gthumb ]
* instant messenger [ ]
* mathematics [ octave ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, dpkg-www, lsof, top, uptimed,
sloccount, wget ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ evince ]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* tag editor [ ex-falso ]
* terminal emulator [ gnome-terminal ]
* text editor [ gedit, nano ]
* 3D animation [ blender ]
* video player [ ]
* web browser [ epiphany ]
* word-processor [ abiword ]
* (unreleased) [ GNU Hurd ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg ]
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
* audio editor [ audacity ]
* audio player [ music123 ]
* cd-ripper [ sound-juicer ]
* Desktop Environment [ fluxbox ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ Python ]
* disc burner [ mkisofs+wodim ]
* e-mail client [ seamonkey ]
* file manager [ pcmanfm, mc ]
* finance [ gnucash ]
* ftp [ lftp ]
* image editor [ gimp ]
* image viewer [ gthumb ]
* instant messenger [ gaim ]
* mathematics [ scilab ]
* misc utilities [ ]
* p2p [ amule ]
* package manager [ apt ]
* pdf-reader [ evince, acroread, xpdf ]
* spreadsheet [ OOo ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ urxvt+screen ]
* text editor [ vim, emacs ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ mplayer ]
* web browser [ seamonkey ]
* word-processor [ OOo ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg ]
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 14:38:01 UTC
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Post by Rodrigo Paes
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, lsof, top, wget, meld, ssh ]
Nice that you pointed out meld, a graphical diff. I once saw such a
utility on Windows, and always wondered if there was an equivalent in
Debian (the kind of reason why I started this thread).
Post by Rodrigo Paes
* p2p [ bittorrent ]
* package manager [ dselect , apt-get ]
Wow! Still using dselect. Any advantages over aptitude or apt-get?
Rodrigo Paes
2006-10-29 20:13:41 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Rodrigo Paes
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, lsof, top, wget, meld, ssh ]
Nice that you pointed out meld, a graphical diff. I once saw such a
utility on Windows, and always wondered if there was an equivalent in
Debian (the kind of reason why I started this thread).
I've seen quite a few graphical diffs GNU and M$ ... but meld is
the best by far. I even got a M$ user to change to Linux just because
of meld
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Rodrigo Paes
* p2p [ bittorrent ]
* package manager [ dselect , apt-get ]
Wow! Still using dselect. Any advantages over aptitude or apt-get?
nope.... I've been using it for so long that I can't get my brain
rewired to use anything else :)

[]s
rodrigo
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-30 04:40:18 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Rodrigo Paes
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, lsof, top, wget, meld, ssh ]
Nice that you pointed out meld, a graphical diff. I once saw such a
utility on Windows, and always wondered if there was an equivalent in
Debian (the kind of reason why I started this thread).
I tried it yesterday and it rocks. I can't believe I never heard of
it. And by the way, it's far superior to the Windows 'equivalent' I
mention above.
Sylvain Le Gall
2006-10-27 06:32:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ beep-media-player ]
* cd-ripper [grip ]
* Desktop Environment [ xfce4 ]
* DBMS [ sqlite ]
* development [ OCaml, GTK+ ]
* disc burner [ XCdroast ]
* e-mail client [ mutt, sqwebmail ]
* file manager [ thunar ]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ lftp ]
* image editor [ gimp ]
* image viewer [ gqview ]
* instant messenger [ gaim ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, fakeroot ]
* p2p [ mldonkey ]
* package manager [ apt-get, synaptic ]
* pdf-reader [ ]
* spreadsheet [ Ooo ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ xterm ]
* text editor [ vim, emacs ]
* 3D animation [ blender ]
* video player [ vlc ]
* web browser [ firefox, dillo, w3m ]
* word-processor [ Ooo ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ ]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
Regards,
Sylvain Le Gall
Clive Menzies
2006-10-27 07:56:15 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ xmms ]
* cd-ripper [ grip ]
* Desktop Environment [ fluxbox ]
* DBMS [ postgresql]
* development [ ]
* disc burner [ cdrbq ]
* e-mail client [ mutt ]
* file manager [ emelfm ]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [gft ]
* image editor [gimp ]
* image viewer [ gqview ]
* instant messenger [ ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, top,locate, ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ xpdf ]
* spreadsheet [ oocalc ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ xfce4-terminal ]
* text editor [ vim ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [xine]
* web browser [ firefox]
* word-processor [ oowriter ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ debian ]
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
--
www.clivemenzies.co.uk ...
...strategies for business
George Borisov
2006-10-27 09:31:00 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
:-)

* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ xmms ]
* cd-ripper [ abcde ]
* Desktop Environment [ xfce4 ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ ]
* disc burner [ ]
* e-mail client [ icedove (formerly thunderbird), mutt (console) ]
* file manager [ emelfm ]
* finance [ gnucash ]
* ftp [ yafc ]
* image editor [ gimp ]
* image viewer [ qiv ]
* instant messenger [ gaim ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ ssh, rsync, dig, iptables, racoon, iproute2,
nagios, mrtg/rddtool ]
* p2p [ rtorrent, amule ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ evince ]
* spreadsheet [ openoffice-calc ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ aterm ]
* text editor [ vim ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ mplayer ]
* web browser [ firefox (soon to be iceweasel) ]
* word-processor [ abiword, LaTeX ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ Debian ]
--
George Borisov

DXSolutions Ltd
George Borisov
2006-10-27 10:12:46 UTC
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Post by George Borisov
* misc utilities [ ssh, rsync, dig, iptables, racoon, iproute2,
nagios, mrtg/rddtool ]
Add screen and mailscanner to that as well.
--
George Borisov

DXSolutions Ltd
celejar
2006-10-27 15:33:18 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
* audio editor [ ]
* audio player [ xmms]
* cd-ripper [ ]
* Desktop Environment [ xfce]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ gcc ]
* disc burner [ cdrecord, gnomebakes]
* e-mail client [ sylpheed]
* file manager [ mc]
* finance [ ]
* ftp [ sftp]
* image editor [ ]
* image viewer [ feh]
* instant messenger [ ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, ps, pkill, wget ]
* p2p [ ]
* package manager [ apt]
* pdf-reader [ xpdf]
* spreadsheet [ ]
* tag editor [ ]
* terminal emulator [ xfce-terminal ]
* text editor [ gedit, nano, vim, gvim, cream ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ gmplayer]
* web browser [ firefox, links]
* word-processor [ abiword ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash, Xorg ]
Andrei Popescu
2006-10-28 09:22:08 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* text editor [ gedit, nano, vim, gvim, cream ]
^^^^^

That was a nice tip. It is not as snappy as leafpad but has MANY more
features. Thanks!

Regards,
Andrei
--
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 14:43:11 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* Desktop Environment [ xfce]
Can I safely assume that you meant Xfce4, not the version what was in Woody?
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-30 05:42:37 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* Desktop Environment [ xfce]
Is it safe to assume that you mean Xfce4?
Chris Bannister
2006-10-29 06:43:02 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
What is the difference between oss and floss? I thought oss stood for
"open source software" and floss was something you cleaned your teeth
with. Am I missing something?

Also debian-curiosa may be a more apt list for this.
--
Chris.
======
" ... the official version cannot be abandoned because the implication of
rejecting it is far too disturbing: that we are subject to a government
conspiracy of `X-Files' proportions and insidiousness."
Letter to the LA Times Magazine, September 18, 2005.
Hal Vaughan
2006-10-29 07:03:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Chris Bannister
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The
big winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
What is the difference between oss and floss? I thought oss stood for
"open source software" and floss was something you cleaned your teeth
with. Am I missing something?
OSS = Open Source Software
FOSS = Free/Open Source Software
FLOSS = Free/Libre/Open Source Software
(Libre as in the French pronunciation and meaning)

So, yes, you're missing something. Even the /. crowd has been using the
terms FOSS and FLOSS (or F/LOSS) for over a year.

Hal
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 08:24:11 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, dpkg-www, lsof, top, uptimed, sloccount, wget ]
I forgot to mention file-roller, popularity-contest, less, and pmount
in this category.
Ron Johnson
2006-10-29 10:42:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
[snip]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* (unreleased) [ GNU Hurd ]
Why is this on there?
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
If you don't (now or at some time) use it, how do you know if you
like it or not?

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
h***@topoi.pooq.com
2006-10-29 13:07:40 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
If you don't (now or at some time) use it, how do you know if you
like it or not?
People can like things for the strangest reasons.

-- hendrik
Ron Johnson
2006-10-29 13:46:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by h***@topoi.pooq.com
Post by Ron Johnson
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
If you don't (now or at some time) use it, how do you know if you
like it or not?
People can like things for the strangest reasons.
Yes, but even you admit there must be *reasons*.

So, what is the *reason* that Hurd is a favorite piece of software,
if "you" have never used it?

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
David Jardine
2006-10-29 19:37:52 UTC
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Post by h***@topoi.pooq.com
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Hash: SHA1
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
If you don't (now or at some time) use it, how do you know if you
like it or not?
People can like things for the strangest reasons.
I don't know if it's strange, but I liked debian (from what I'd read
about it) before I tried it and long, long before I was really able
to use it (if I can yet :( ).
Post by h***@topoi.pooq.com
-- hendrik
--
--
David Jardine

"Running Debian GNU/Linux and
loving every minute of it." -L. von Sacher-M.(1835-1895)
Ron Johnson
2006-10-29 21:33:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by David Jardine
Post by h***@topoi.pooq.com
Post by Ron Johnson
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
If you don't (now or at some time) use it, how do you know if you
like it or not?
People can like things for the strangest reasons.
I don't know if it's strange, but I liked debian (from what I'd read
about it) before I tried it and long, long before I was really able
to use it (if I can yet :( ).
You can like the *idea* of something without trying, but you don't
actually like *it*.

For example, *every* heterosexual guy on this list "likes" Scarlett
Johansson[0]. But, she might actually be a grade A bitch, and if we
ever met her, we'd hate her.


[0] If you a monk without a TV, here are some links:
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- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
Miles Bader
2006-10-29 13:43:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ron Johnson
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
If you don't (now or at some time) use it, how do you know if you
like it or not?
I think of the term "be a user of" as meaning that you use something
regularly or at least occasionally.

There are many pieces of software which I've tried out (e.g. when they
show up as new packages in debian's package list), and been very
impressed by, but simply not had the need to use.

For instance, libfltk is a very elegant GUI toolkit -- which I know from
reading the docs and playing around with simple example programs -- but
I really don't do any GUI programming these days. The next time I _do_
need to make a GUI, of course, libfltk will be one of the first things I
try (but who knows when that will be... no time... no time... :-).

-Miles
--
Fast, small, soon; pick any 2.
Ron Johnson
2006-10-29 14:25:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Miles Bader
Post by Ron Johnson
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
If you don't (now or at some time) use it, how do you know if you
like it or not?
I think of the term "be a user of" as meaning that you use something
regularly or at least occasionally.
Right. But has OP even tried Hurd?
Post by Miles Bader
There are many pieces of software which I've tried out (e.g. when they
show up as new packages in debian's package list), and been very
impressed by, but simply not had the need to use.
No issues there.
Post by Miles Bader
For instance, libfltk is a very elegant GUI toolkit -- which I know from
reading the docs and playing around with simple example programs -- but
Ah, so you *have* used it. Point made.



- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 13:45:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ron Johnson
[snip]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* (unreleased) [ GNU Hurd ]
Why is this on there?
I can't wait for the completion of the project; I'd try the current
version if it had sound though.
Post by Ron Johnson
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
If you don't (now or at some time) use it, how do you know if you
like it or not?
It can be a matter of perception:
I don't use Blender, but I honour the clout that it managed to create
for itself (Elephants Dream for example), and I often follow its
development, and excited by its success. I plan to do so soon, once I
have time.
Ron Johnson
2006-10-29 14:32:10 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Ron Johnson
[snip]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* (unreleased) [ GNU Hurd ]
Why is this on there?
I can't wait for the completion of the project; I'd try the current
version if it had sound though.
Yes, you *would* try it. But you haven't.

And if you *did* try it, you *might* think it sucks.
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Ron Johnson
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it
;-)
If you don't (now or at some time) use it, how do you know if you
like it or not?
I don't use Blender, but I honour the clout that it managed to create
for itself (Elephants Dream for example), and I often follow its
development, and excited by its success. I plan to do so soon, once I
have time.
I honor Blender also, but how can I honestly say it's one of *my*
*FAVORITE* applications, if I've never used it? I might try it and
think it sucks.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 14:51:16 UTC
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Post by Ron Johnson
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
I can't wait for the completion of the project; I'd try the current
version if it had sound though.
Yes, you *would* try it. But you haven't.
And if you *did* try it, you *might* think it sucks.
The category 'unreleased' can help one to discover new, exotic
projects. The HURD is the one I anticipate most, so I find the entry
here worthyl.
Post by Ron Johnson
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Ron Johnson
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it
;-)
If you don't (now or at some time) use it, how do you know if you
like it or not?
I don't use Blender, but I honour the clout that it managed to create
for itself (Elephants Dream for example), and I often follow its
development, and excited by its success. I plan to do so soon, once I
have time.
I honor Blender also, but how can I honestly say it's one of *my*
*FAVORITE* applications, if I've never used it? I might try it and
think it sucks.
You got a point, only that I felt hardpressed to include it here. Do
you mind including your list?
Ron Johnson
2006-10-29 15:33:09 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Ron Johnson
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
I can't wait for the completion of the project; I'd try the current
version if it had sound though.
Yes, you *would* try it. But you haven't.
And if you *did* try it, you *might* think it sucks.
The category 'unreleased' can help one to discover new, exotic
projects. The HURD is the one I anticipate most, so I find the entry
here worthyl.
That's advocating the theoretical. People get burned that way.

[snip]
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Ron Johnson
I honor Blender also, but how can I honestly say it's one of *my*
*FAVORITE* applications, if I've never used it? I might try it and
think it sucks.
You got a point, only that I felt hardpressed to include it here. Do
you mind including your list?
* audio player [ gqmpeg ]
* cd-ripper [ abcde ]
* Desktop Environment [ GNOME ]
* DBMS [ postgresql, sqlite3 ]
* development [ Python ]
* disc burner [ home-rolled script ]
* e-mail client [ tbird, mutt ]
* file manager [ Real Geeks Don't Use File Managers ]
* finance [ gnumeric ]
* ftp [ ncftp ]
* image editor [ gimp ]
* image viewer [ qiv ]
* mathematics [ bc ]
* misc utilities [ grep, top, locate, wget ]
* p2p [ freeloader ]
* package manager [ wajig ]
* pdf-reader [ acroread ]
* spreadsheet [ gnumeric ]
* terminal emulator [ rxvt ]
* text editor [ vim, gedit ]
* video player [ mplayer ]
* web browser [ firefox, links2 -g ]
* word-processor [ abiword ]
* shell [ bash ]
* games [ xnethack, gnobots2 ]

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 16:05:56 UTC
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Post by Ron Johnson
* file manager [ Real Geeks Don't Use File Managers ]
Many mentioned that Bash is their favourite File Manager, and it was
surprising to me that it was considered as such.
Post by Ron Johnson
* games [ xnethack, gnobots2 ]
Interesting that this category was overlooked. Probably shows that
debian-user doesn't play games that much. But I can't find xnethack in
Debian. What I find instead is nethack-x11, and I wonder if that's
what you mean.
cothrige
2006-10-29 18:00:35 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Ron Johnson
* file manager [ Real Geeks Don't Use File Managers ]
Many mentioned that Bash is their favourite File Manager, and it was
surprising to me that it was considered as such.
Post by Ron Johnson
* games [ xnethack, gnobots2 ]
Interesting that this category was overlooked. Probably shows that
debian-user doesn't play games that much. But I can't find xnethack in
Debian. What I find instead is nethack-x11, and I wonder if that's
what you mean.
Yes, there were a couple of things which I never thought of, and games
would be one. I would have to amend my list to include these and that
would make it as follows:

* audio editor [ sox, audacity ]
* audio player [ mpd (mpc, ncmpc), cdtool, mplayer ]
* cd-ripper [ abcde ]
* Desktop Environment [ N/A ]
-- * Window Managers [ Fluxbox, ratpoison, ion3 ]
* DBMS [ ]
* development [ Perl (basic system stuff, and only enough to hurt myself) ]
* disc burner [ cdrecord, growisofs ]
* e-mail client [ mutt ]
* file manager [ bash ]
* finance [ No money, that is why I use Linux ;-) ]
* ftp [ ]
* image editor [ ImageMagick, GIMP ]
* image viewer [ ImageMagick, xzgv ]
* instant messenger [ centericq, Gaim ]
* mathematics [ ]
* misc utilities [ screen, conky, wget, bash ]
* p2p [ bittornado ]
* package manager [ aptitude ]
* pdf-reader [ evince ]
* spreadsheet [ ]
* tag editor [ id3v2 ]
* terminal emulator [ mrxvt ]
* text editor [ GNU emacs ]
* 3D animation [ ]
* video player [ mplayer ]
* web browser [ elinks, Firefox, Opera ]
* word-processor [ openoffice ]
* (unreleased) [ ]
* (great honours) [ Linux, GCC, glibc, Xorg ]

And new items:
* (games) [ ADOM, nethack ]
* (news) [ slrn, nget ]

I think that would be the final list, after more consideration.

Patrick
Miles Bader
2006-10-29 22:16:55 UTC
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Post by cothrige
* (games) [ ADOM, nethack ]
* (news) [ slrn, nget ]
Is adom free software now?! Last I remember, it was free-as-in-beer
only, no sources available.

-Miles
--
"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that
you do it." Mahatma Ghandi
cothrige
2006-10-29 23:29:26 UTC
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Post by Miles Bader
Post by cothrige
* (games) [ ADOM, nethack ]
* (news) [ slrn, nget ]
Is adom free software now?! Last I remember, it was free-as-in-beer
only, no sources available.
-Miles
Hmmm. Now that I think about it, I don't recall seeing any sources.
It probably is not free, and I will retract that one and just leave
nethack. Too bad though, as I enjoy ADOM a bit more.

Patrick
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 16:08:55 UTC
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Post by Ron Johnson
* shell [ bash ]
Not such a valid entry, unless many entries go for other shells. If
so, then this goes to 'misc utilities', unless you disagree.
Ron Johnson
2006-10-29 21:23:35 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Post by Ron Johnson
* shell [ bash ]
Not such a valid entry, unless many entries go for other shells. If
so, then this goes to 'misc utilities', unless you disagree.
A Unix shell is *in no way* a miscellaneous utility.

ANYONE who thinks so has Microsoft on the brain and it totally clueless.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 15:37:53 UTC
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* development [ Python, ArgoUML, Archgenxml (developing for Plone) ]
Where can one find Archgenxml since I can't find it in Debian?
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-29 15:41:12 UTC
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* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, top, wget, lynks ]
I can't find lynks anywhere. Is this a typo?
Ron Johnson
2006-10-29 21:34:45 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* misc utilities [ sudo, grep, top, wget, lynks ]
I can't find lynks anywhere. Is this a typo?
Yes. The packages are lynx and links2.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
Kevin Mark
2006-10-29 16:30:18 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave
the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving
them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more
<snip>
Hi Tshepang,
I have asked before on debian-devel if debian users could be involved in
a seperate informal vote like the one from DPL. In that vein, i'd also
like to see your poll use the Debian voting infrastucture, devotee, to
produce vote results. I think it would be great to have yearly votes
like this one or other ones that show what the debian populace think.
Any thoughts on this?
Kev
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Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-30 11:29:48 UTC
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Post by Kevin Mark
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi,
A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big
winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and
Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those
who are get bored by this to please pardon me.
<snip>
Hi Tshepang,
I have asked before on debian-devel if debian users could be involved in
a seperate informal vote like the one from DPL. In that vein, i'd also
like to see your poll use the Debian voting infrastucture, devotee, to
produce vote results. I think it would be great to have yearly votes
like this one or other ones that show what the debian populace think.
Any thoughts on this?
Sound like a brilliant idea. I just don't have an idea how it would be
implemented, except that there should be provision for names of real
binaries, instead of names of debian binaries, e.g. one should be able
to mention a love for top instead of being forced to choose procps,
since one would only be exposed to the top binary, or find it to be
the only interesting binary in the procps package.
The voters in this list did do this, disregarding exceptions where
several chose apt instead of apt-get as favourite 'package manager',
for example.
There should probably be a vote on what categories should be
considered, instead of using Debian's menu entries, which doesn't look
suitable at all.
The ability to vote would be nice, just so that we are not limited by
bug reports on what direction Debian is taking. A lot of us enjoy
working with Debian so much that we feel a part of it, and this would
make this relationship a bit warmer...
John L Fjellstad
2006-10-29 19:51:17 UTC
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"Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <***@gmail.com> writes:

audio editor [ ]
audio player [ amarok ]
cd-ripper [ abcde ]
Desktop Environment [ KDE ]
DBMS [ ]
development [ C++, Java, emacs, gmake, ant ]
disc burner [ K3b ]
e-mail client [ mutt, kmail ]
file manager [ konqueror, shell ]
finance [ ]
ftp [ ncftp ]
image editor [ gimp ]
image viewer [ digiKam ]
instant messenger [ kopete ]
mathematics [ ]
misc utilities [ sudo, grep, bash, awk, sed, vim, gnus ]
p2p [ ]
package manager [ aptitude ]
pdf-reader [ kpdf ]
spreadsheet [ OpenOffice.org Calc ]
tag editor [ id3v2, metaflac ]
terminal emulator [ konsole ]
text editor [ emacs ]
3D animation [ ]
video player [ kmplayer ]
web browser [ firefox, konqueror ]
word-processor [ OpenOffice.org write ]
(unreleased) [ ]
(great honours) [ GCC, emacs, KDE ]
--
John L. Fjellstad
web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-30 05:08:13 UTC
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I think it would be useful to categorize users e.g.: desktop home, desktop
office, web admin,
There'll probably be a lot of overlap, but it's a good idea to consider.
* cd-ripper [ k3b ]
I was not even aware of this functionality. I'll probably throw
sound-juicer which is my favourite in this category.
* DBMS [ gnumerica ]
Where can I find this?
* (unreleased) [ hugin ]
But this is available in Debian. What do you mean?
Zbigniew Wiech
2006-10-30 13:23:13 UTC
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Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* DBMS [ gnumerica ]
Where can I find this?
OK, I meant functionality not real DBMS ;)
Small database for office use - sums, filtering etc. Gnumerica is
excellent here.
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* (unreleased) [ hugin ]
But this is available in Debian. What do you mean?
I use sarge where it's not available

regards
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
2006-10-30 14:33:30 UTC
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Post by Zbigniew Wiech
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* DBMS [ gnumerica ]
Where can I find this?
OK, I meant functionality not real DBMS ;)
Small database for office use - sums, filtering etc. Gnumerica is excellent
here.
Did you misspell gnumeric? I can't find gnumerica in Debian.
Post by Zbigniew Wiech
Post by Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
* (unreleased) [ hugin ]
But this is available in Debian. What do you mean?
I use sarge where it's not available
Can I then catecorize it under 'misc utilities'?

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